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Can you please explain why I see so many titles?

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:25 pm
by Kapunka
Hey guys,

could someone explain to me why MakeMKV (first time I use it) shows me sooo many titles? When I select everything, it rips the movie twice with the same size (43.x GB). The first file has 32 chapters (as shown by PowerDVD 15) and the second has 147 chapters. It rips a third video (actually the second in queue) that are just test pictures, which are not accessible by the BR menu. All the other audio streams are not even ripped. And I removed the 5 second filter.

I also like to know why DTS Surround 5.1 English is checked, but the parent DTS-HD MA Surround 5.1 English is not. Wouldn't it be smart to just rip the higher quality audio track?

Those are the logs and I attached some screenshots of the MakeMKV window.

Thanks and looking forward for some answers

Kapunka

Edit: it seems like i cannot attach pictures. here they are: https://imgur.com/a/ByjtH

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MakeMKV v1.10.7 win(x64-release) started
Using direct disc access mode
Evaluation version, 30 day(s) out of 30 remaining
Loaded content hash table, will verify integrity of M2TS files.
File 00001.mpls was added as title #0
File 00102.mpls was added as title #1
File 00095.mpls was added as title #2
File 00096.mpls was added as title #3
File 00002.mpls was added as title #4
File 00100.m2ts was added as title #5
File 00099.m2ts was added as title #6
File 00103.m2ts was added as title #7
File 00104.m2ts was added as title #8
File 00116.m2ts was added as title #9
File 00502.m2ts was added as title #10
File 00503.m2ts was added as title #11
File 00504.m2ts was added as title #12
File 00205.m2ts was added as title #13
File 04999.m2ts was added as title #14
File 00097.m2ts was added as title #15
File 00098.m2ts was added as title #16
File 00208.m2ts was added as title #17
File 00080.m2ts was added as title #18
File 00081.m2ts was added as title #19
Operation successfully completed

Re: Can you please explain why I see so many titles?

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:32 pm
by Woodstock
You are one of the millions of victims of Lionsgate. They employ a technique generically called "Playlist obfuscation", which produces dozens (DVD) to hundreds (BD) of fake titles. It's discussed in maybe a hundred different topics on this board.

If you have the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) from java.com installed, MakeMKV will try to figure out which title is real, move it to the top of the list, and mark it as "MainFeature".

And you'll want to know about the "right click" context menu, where you can unselect all the titles at once, then select the real one.

Re: Can you please explain why I see so many titles?

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:16 pm
by Kapunka
Hey Woodstock, thanks for the input. I'll read into the Lionsgate thing.

I have installed java and put the path to java.exe in the preferences. But I don't see any change in the main window. And there is no indication of MakeMKV trying to figure something out. Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks for the tip with the context menu.

Cheers!

Re: Can you please explain why I see so many titles?

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:18 pm
by yorgo
I think this is more than just playlist obfuscation, it's someone just discovering what is actually on a disc. :wink:

How a disc is authored is completely up to the producer of the disc, ie there may not be rhyme or reason why it was created the way it was. I also have seen duplicate or triplicate titles of the main movie; sometimes with varying chapters as you've described, sometimes with different audio tracks, and sometimes straight-up identical. Again, why? Who knows...

Then you may come across different versions of the movie, as example happens often with Miyazaki's anime films, where the playlists of the main movie vary in the language of the main titles and credits, all else is identical.

And, of course, there's what Woodstock described, called playlist obfuscation where there are literally HUNDREDS of similar playlists but only one is correct and you have to find it. Won't go further on this one, google for more information.

Welcome to figuring out how to rip a blu-ray!

As to the audio track, if a high-resolution track is available, you can check the box in front of it and it will rip. You may want to read this page for basics (it describes ripping a DVD but gets you mostly there for blu-rays as well): /onlinehelp/. After that, experiment and keep reading the forums. When I have a question about something specific to MakeMKV, I google search starting with "makemkv" then my question or search phrase. Come up with most of my answers that way, the rest get asked in the forums.

Good luck!

EDIT: forgot to include link