Re: PGS Subtitles MakeMKV & Handbrake
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:16 am
Got it! It worked with the 4.0.1 Java version of BDSup2Sub. Seems like the exe port still has some problems. I'll try to inform the author. Thanks guys!
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The reason that no one is finding any forced subtitles in John Cater is, there aren't any. I extracted all three subtitle tracks that were available and found that only one of them contained the alien language in english. The correct one will have 61 subtitles.BrownWaffles wrote:Hi all, what I really would like to know:
Is there another Blu-ray disc where this particular subtitle-problem occurs (except Avatar)?
Yes, I am having this problem with John Carter on Blu Ray. The subtitle is there in the MKV, but it not recognized
and shows up as und instead of eng. MakeMKV was used.
What movie are you talking about? If it's Avatar, there certainly are forced subtitles. See my post earlier where I gave the binary output of the compositions in the subtitles themselves. There are forced and non-forced subtitles.kfreeb wrote:The reason that no one is finding any forced subtitles is that there aren't any.
Are you talking about a DVD? This thread is about PGS subtitles, which is the format on BluRay disks. VobSub is the DVD subtitle format.kfreeb wrote:What I did was just extract this track and then muxed it back together with the MKV movie file as a vob sub track
Sorry for the lack of info, I was replying to a post on the previous page about John Carter blu-ray and the lack of forced subs.BrownWaffles wrote:Hi all, what I really would like to know:
Is there another Blu-ray disc where this particular subtitle-problem occurs (except Avatar)?
Yes, I am having this problem with John Carter on Blu Ray. The subtitle is there in the MKV, but it not recognized
and shows up as und instead of eng. MakeMKV was used.
I'm not sure this is the proper action. In the case of the subtitles I outlined in Avatar (F2 through F9), all were present in the stream. While the addition of the clear subtitles (F9) is a great improvement, I'm not sure that non-forced subtitles (F4 & F6) should be in a "forced only" stream. In the case of Avatar, there are 20 non-forced subtitles that were ripped when using forced only along with the 83 forced subtitles.mike admin wrote:Second, if a forced subtitle follows by one or more non-forced subtitles and only then by "clear" subtitle, MakeMKV will keep these (really rarely occurring) non-forced subtitles in a forced track.
Even though it was released after PGS subtitle support was introduced, HandBrake 0.9.8 is a bugfix-only release and does not include any new features (so, like 0.9.6, PGS subtitles aren't supported).kfreeb wrote:I just did a rip of Avatar, with the forced Subs selected, (only, unchecked normal subs) during the rip in Make MKV. The resulting MKV file had a PGS track, but handbrake could not see it. The only option available was the foreign audio search, which did not pick up the forced subs in the final encoded m4v file.
As far as non forced subs, I to have seen the same thing, (as gbooker) where there are a few non forced subs getting into the final MKV rips, subtitle stream, when ripping only forced subs.gbooker: I'm not sure this is the proper action. In the case of the subtitles I outlined in Avatar (F2 through F9), all were present in the stream. While the addition of the clear subtitles (F9) is a great improvement, I'm not sure that non-forced subtitles (F4 & F6) should be in a "forced only" stream. In the case of Avatar, there are 20 non-forced subtitles that were ripped when using forced only along with the 83 forced subtitles.
If you're going to render (burn-in) the subtitles with HandBrake, you can select "Forced Only" in the subtitle panel and it'll skip them.kfreeb wrote:As far as non forced subs, I to have seen the same thing, (as gbooker) where there are a few non forced subs getting into the final MKV rips, subtitle stream, when ripping only forced subs.
That seems to be the case with Battleship (yeah, I know) which (among others) has these streams:Romansh wrote:That's not uncommon either: forced subtitles being in a dedicated track, with none of the subtitles (instead of all, see above) being flagged as forced.
Good to know, thanks!Romansh wrote: If you're going to render (burn-in) the subtitles with HandBrake, you can select "Forced Only" in the subtitle panel and it'll skip them.
If all you want is forced subtitles, use Foreign Audio Search + Forced Only. HandBrake will scan all available subtitle tracks and pick the correct one (99% of the time).pfm555 wrote:Getting the subtitles i.e. alien language for movies such as John Carter and Avatar to work seems to be lot more complicated than i thought after reading this thread. i have converted all files from John Carter to MKV and downloaded handbrake. If someone could tell what steps (I am a newbie) i need to do in handbrake to get the subtitles to work would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.