Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

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havok3114
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Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by havok3114 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:13 pm

Lots of playlists, any idea which one is the right one?

coolmac
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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by coolmac » Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:28 pm

My Mac Blu-ray player played a title there is 2.26.15 hours - title 35 :)

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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by unclebagel » Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:43 am

If you scroll down about 4/5's of the way there is one file with "(Primary title)" in the name. Not sure what that means but I took a chance and it looks like it works. Source file name: 00861.mpls File name: The_Hunger_Games_Catching_Fire_t143.mkv

Anybody else have an guess?

unclebagel
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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by unclebagel » Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:06 am

I tried the file that Coolmac suggested and it is probably the one you want, not the one I did. So far I noticed a different edit of the train scene at around 14:30. Interesting... Source file name: 00198.mpls File name: The_Hunger_Games_Catching_Fire_t35.mkv

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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by hdmkv » Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:15 pm

Per SlySoft forum, the correct playlist is 00778.mpls. It seems right.

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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by bbarnel » Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:23 pm

Redbox title length shows 2:26:14 (on ps3) matching source mpls are many: 43, 119, 141, 165, 191, 227, 387, 448, 461, 554, 574, 617, 721, 800, 971, 981, 990, 995. Hmm.

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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by FredT » Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:28 pm

hdmkv wrote:Per SlySoft forum, the correct playlist is 00778.mpls. It seems right.
Did you play it? Is it the Redbox rental version. My bluray player reports the same 2:26:14 length as bbarnel, and there are too many files with that length to just try one. Any way to sort this out?

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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by Rnjordan2000 » Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:10 pm

I'm having the same exact issue with redbox version of Catching fire. Has anyone figured out what the correct playlist is? Or how to figure it out?

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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by TempGuy1 » Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:42 pm

Rnjordan2000 wrote:I'm having the same exact issue with redbox version of Catching fire. Has anyone figured out what the correct playlist is? Or how to figure it out?

The way I do it, is backup the entire disk. Look at all titles with the correct length of 2:26:14 and disregard the rest. Now write down (I use excel) all the segments from the description of the title in MakeMKV. It says Segment map. Now go to your backed up disk files and you're gonna look at all segments in the list from all titles. There's gonna be lots of duplicates. Group the duplicate segment numbers together on paper or excel so you know which are duplicates.

Then you just have to watch the segment video files individually and piece them together like a puzzle. You don't have to watch the entire video, just forward to the end, find the next segment that matches with it. Kind of like putting together a puzzle. Write them down in order as you go. Once you finish all videos, and you have the order the segments should be in, go back to MakeMKV and find the only title with that same segment order. It takes a while but it's fool proof.

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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by unclebagel » Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:58 pm

TempGuy1 wrote:The way I do it, is backup the entire disk. Look at all titles with the correct length of 2:26:14 and disregard the rest.
They are making it hard for this one. There are 150 (!) titles with that length. I grabbed 00778.mpls to see if there was any difference from 00198.mpls. Doing a quick comparison through the movie and seems similar. The differences are the segment maps for 512, 515 and 502, 503 are flipped in the listing.

I just noticed that 00478.mpls is only one with length of 2:27:14 with an extra segment map of 3152 but only 1 Chapter count. Any idea what this is?

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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by TempGuy1 » Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:09 pm

unclebagel wrote:
TempGuy1 wrote:The way I do it, is backup the entire disk. Look at all titles with the correct length of 2:26:14 and disregard the rest.
They are making it hard for this one. There are 150 (!) titles with that length. I grabbed 00778.mpls to see if there was any difference from 00198.mpls. Doing a quick comparison through the movie and seems similar. The differences are the segment maps for 512, 515 and 502, 503 are flipped in the listing.

I just noticed that 00478.mpls is only one with length of 2:27:14 with an extra segment map of 3152 but only 1 Chapter count. Any idea what this is?

If you read more than the first sentence, you'd see what else you'd have to do. I just finished it,
Looks like the correct segment order is

505
501(514)
517
507(504)
506
511
516
509
510
503
508
515
512
513
502


The ones in parenthesis are duplicates so as long as one or the other is in the playlist in the correct order, it should be fine. The correct playlist seems to be 00461.mpls
If you want to verify yourself, backup the disk and watch those segments in order.

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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by vandeetz » Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:04 pm

TempGuy1 wrote:The correct playlist seems to be 00461.mpls
If you want to verify yourself, backup the disk and watch those segments in order.
is this for the redbox or the regular blu? I don't have 00461.mpls as an option on my Target Exclusive disc.

is the target disc different from the others?

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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by joe42 » Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:57 pm

Note that there are multiple versions of the blu-ray discs out. The correct title will usually be different depending on which version of the disc you have.

The easiest way to get the correct number is usually to use AnyDVD. If you download the latest beta version, it will usually tell you which one is correct after it scans the disc.

MakeMKV can also sometimes identify the correct one, but I have seen MakeMKV get it wrong (it got it wrong for Ender's game, for example).

Or you could always look at each segment as already described in this thread. But that is too much work for me. AnyDVD rarely fails, as long as I use the latest beta (at the moment, the released version is the latest)

vandeetz
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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by vandeetz » Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:58 pm

joe42 wrote:MakeMKV can also sometimes identify the correct one, but I have seen MakeMKV get it wrong (it got it wrong for Ender's game, for example).
how do you get MakeMkv identify the correct one? I'm on the latest beta and haven't seen that as a feature. I'd try AnyDVD but I don't want to pay every 2 years to stay in the upgrade cycle. especially with such a great piece of software like MakeMkv available.

I could use the free trial, but I run into this problem from time to time so it wouldn't work out for me down the road.

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Re: Hunger Games Catching Fire BD - Which Playlist

Post by nickbuol » Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:22 pm

People REALLY need to specify if they have a retail copy, redbox rental, etc when posting. For example, I have the Target retail copy (disc is *most likely* the same as the other retail copies)...

It doesn't even have a 00461.mpls, and the segment maps (playlist) all start with 511 (no 505 option as first piece) except two that are extras.

There is, however, a 00035.mpls with the following segment map:
511,512,507,515,504,513,503,502,514,505,510,506,508,509,501
or was that supposed to be The_Hunger_Games_Catching_Fire_t35.mkv (00198.mpls) with??: 511,512,507,515,504,513,514,502,503,505,506,510,508,509,501

The one 000778.mpls has the following map (I believe someone above said that this wasn't right, but is what SlySoft, AnyDVD?, came back with):
511,512,515,507,504,513,514,503,502,505,506,510,508,509,501

Lots of goofy stuff.

I was going to fire up AnyDVD and try to use BDInfo to figure out which one is right, but my AnyDVD "trial" expired. It won't let me install a newer version. I probably need to find an "AnyDVD uninstall cleaner" app and try again or something.

So again, if you find one that works, please not only post what exactly worked, but if it is the retail or rental version.

If I get AnyDVD working and figure it out for the retail, I will post it, however I am going out to dinner and a movie with my wife in about 25 minutes, so I wouldn't know for sure until later tonight when I could test the movie.

EDIT: After uninstalled AnyDVD, and then deleted everything in my registry and on my hard drive with the word anydvd or slysoft followed by a clean reboot, and I still can't get AnyDVD to run without popping up about the trial expiring.

I wish that is wasn't so expensive for a program that I rarely ever use or I would just buy it. Even on sale right now it is about $131 for a lifetime license (of something that I might use twice a year)... Oh well. I tried. I guess I will have to wait or figure out an alternative method to figure out which segment map the retail is.

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