Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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jlpsvk
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by jlpsvk » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:33 am

so... I achieved this... with the help of mp4box :) i think, would be good enough. :)

1) demux with tsMuxer...
2) encode BL
3) mux BL_encode.hevc with EL.hevc with yousesope's tools with mode 2 to BL+RPU
4) mux only video to mp4 with mp4muxer 1.0.1
5) add audio, subs, chapters to MP4 with mp4box

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Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (mp42/iso6/isom/msdh/dby1)
File size                                : 10.1 GiB
Duration                                 : 1 h 48 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 13.2 Mb/s

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.05.06, BL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2094 App 4, Version 1, HDR10+ Profile B compatible
Codec ID                                 : dvhe
Codec ID/Info                            : High Efficiency Video Coding with Dolby Vision
Duration                                 : 1 h 48 min
Bit rate                                 : 12.1 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.061
Stream size                              : 9.24 GiB (92%)
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : BT.2020
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 683 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 136 cd/m2
Codec configuration box                  : dvcC+hvcC

Audio #1
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital
Codec ID                                 : ac-3
Duration                                 : 1 h 48 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 448 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 473 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 349 MiB (3%)
Title                                    : Czech
Language                                 : Czech
Service kind                             : Complete Main

Audio #2
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital
Codec ID                                 : ac-3
Duration                                 : 1 h 48 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 676 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 499 MiB (5%)
Title                                    : English
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main

Text #1
ID                                       : 4
Format                                   : VobSub
Codec ID                                 : mp4s-E0
Codec ID/Info                            : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Duration                                 : 1 h 42 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 312 b/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 91.3 kb/s
Stream size                              : 240 KiB (0%)
Title                                    : Czech Forced
Language                                 : Czech
Forced                                   : No

Text #2
ID                                       : 5
Format                                   : VobSub
Codec ID                                 : mp4s-E0
Codec ID/Info                            : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Duration                                 : 1 h 48 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 7 768 b/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 104 kb/s
Stream size                              : 6.05 MiB (0%)
Title                                    : Czech Full
Language                                 : Czech
Forced                                   : No

Text #3
ID                                       : 6
Format                                   : Timed Text
Codec ID                                 : tx3g
Duration                                 : 1 h 42 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 2 b/s
Stream size                              : 1.50 KiB (0%)
Title                                    : Czech Forced SRT
Language                                 : Czech
Forced                                   : Yes

Text #4
ID                                       : 7
Format                                   : Timed Text
Codec ID                                 : tx3g
Duration                                 : 1 h 48 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 63 b/s
Stream size                              : 50.3 KiB (0%)
Title                                    : Czech Full SRT
Language                                 : Czech
Forced                                   : No

Menu
00:00:00.000                             : Chapter 01
00:08:08.446                             : Chapter 02
00:17:53.739                             : Chapter 03
00:27:11.839                             : Chapter 04
00:35:40.805                             : Chapter 05
00:44:48.352                             : Chapter 06
00:53:43.387                             : Chapter 07
01:01:15.547                             : Chapter 08
01:10:55.960                             : Chapter 09
01:19:06.492                             : Chapter 10
01:24:28.146                             : Chapter 11
01:34:27.996                             : Chapter 12
01:41:26.998                             : Chapter 13

Woodstock
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Woodstock » Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:27 pm

sonysg wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:50 am
I see I hope future improve version of makemkv could support different type of subtitle format
DV in MKV is really the only hope for that - MP4 standards are outside the control of anyone "poor". The most radical change driven by anyone outside the standards body on that front was driven in partby Apple, with MP4 chapters via a special subtitle track in to "m4v" files. Nero introduced a standardized (but not standard) way to put VOBSUB subtitles from DVDs in as a track.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4_Pa ... ta_streams for what can be in an MP4.
How to aid in finding the answer to your problem: https://www.makemkv.com/faq/item/8

olevelo
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by olevelo » Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:35 pm

sonysg wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:50 am
Woodstock wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 2:06 am
Subtitle types you can put in an MP4 file are very limited. Other than timed text and closed captioning, everything else depends on the player understanding a non-standard extension.
I see I hope future improve version of makemkv could support different type of subtitle format
Makemkv has nothing to do with mp4.

chrisandy
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by chrisandy » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:31 pm

jlpsvk wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:31 am
chrisandy wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:36 am

Trying to achieve this but unfortunately level is grayed out for me - is there something obvious I am missing?

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Don't download latest nigthly of tsMuxer, but this one:

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https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/tsMuxerGUI-Nightly/2020-03-30--02-11-36#files
it will create dvhe.05 instead dvhe.06... :)
Unfortunately still both unable to change the level # and I'm still only getting HDR10 instead of DV.

Here is my set up:

Apple TV 4K
Infuse App

Here is what I am doing:

Use Yuescope's tool to extract Base Layer and Extended Layer
Add those to TSMuxer
Add playlist file to TSMuxer
Remove the two video files from the playlist file, leaving the .hevc and the audio files
Create a .m2ts file

That .m2ts checks out in Mediainfo but it does not play as Dolby Vision in the Infuse app.

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Angryunibrow
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Angryunibrow » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:34 pm

chrisandy wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:31 pm
jlpsvk wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:31 am
chrisandy wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:36 am

Trying to achieve this but unfortunately level is grayed out for me - is there something obvious I am missing?

Annotation 2020-05-31 232956.png
Don't download latest nigthly of tsMuxer, but this one:

Code: Select all

https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/tsMuxerGUI-Nightly/2020-03-30--02-11-36#files
it will create dvhe.05 instead dvhe.06... :)
Unfortunately still both unable to change the level # and I'm still only getting HDR10 instead of DV.

Here is my set up:

Apple TV 4K
Infuse App

Here is what I am doing:

Use Yuescope's tool to extract Base Layer and Extended Layer
Add those to TSMuxer
Add playlist file to TSMuxer
Remove the two video files from the playlist file, leaving the .hevc and the audio files
Create a .m2ts file

That .m2ts checks out in Mediainfo but it does not play as Dolby Vision in the Infuse app.

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Are you using -mode 2 with Yuescopes tool?
You must to create a profile 5 compliant file.

sonysg
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by sonysg » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:29 am

Woodstock wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:27 pm
sonysg wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:50 am
I see I hope future improve version of makemkv could support different type of subtitle format
DV in MKV is really the only hope for that - MP4 standards are outside the control of anyone "poor". The most radical change driven by anyone outside the standards body on that front was driven in partby Apple, with MP4 chapters via a special subtitle track in to "m4v" files. Nero introduced a standardized (but not standard) way to put VOBSUB subtitles from DVDs in as a track.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4_Pa ... ta_streams for what can be in an MP4.
I see thanks for the insight
mkv is really a good container only thing it does not support DV yet :(

sonysg
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by sonysg » Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:32 am

sonysg wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 5:23 am
Dear all,

I'm using OPPO 205 and Sony X950G

I have a problem when playing Dolby Vision disc or MP4 muxed Dolby Vision files

How could we enforced film to full screen(No Black bar) when play back DV contains? It said this operation is not permitted when I pressed "Zoom" on the Oppo's remote

I could do full screen easily on HDR10 but not in Dolby Vision format, only Full screen Dolby Vision contain could (i.e BumbleBee, Transformer 4) :( I wish I could to do that for every Dolby Vision titles to enhance the movie viewing experience

How to we bypass this restriction? it could because of the metadata of second layer(1920*1080) of Dolby Vision contains prevent this to be happened, because muxing Dolby Vision using MP4 container is possible now, I would like to save hard disk space and get rid of black bar whenever possible, Does MakeMKV allow or maximise the full screen properties when muxing in MP4 format?

Looking forward for your suggestion
I'm sorry to bumped up this question but no one seem to be giving me an overall idea on this
Is this restriction on the player itself or the DV authoring prevent the "Zoom" happening but its possible still on HDR10 contains

chrisandy
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by chrisandy » Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:39 am

Angryunibrow wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:34 pm
chrisandy wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:31 pm
jlpsvk wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:31 am


Don't download latest nigthly of tsMuxer, but this one:

Code: Select all

https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/tsMuxerGUI-Nightly/2020-03-30--02-11-36#files
it will create dvhe.05 instead dvhe.06... :)
Unfortunately still both unable to change the level # and I'm still only getting HDR10 instead of DV.

Here is my set up:

Apple TV 4K
Infuse App

Here is what I am doing:

Use Yuescope's tool to extract Base Layer and Extended Layer
Add those to TSMuxer
Add playlist file to TSMuxer
Remove the two video files from the playlist file, leaving the .hevc and the audio files
Create a .m2ts file

That .m2ts checks out in Mediainfo but it does not play as Dolby Vision in the Infuse app.

Image
Are you using -mode 2 with Yuescopes tool?
You must to create a profile 5 compliant file.
I did use -mode 2. I am/was unable to figure out how to create a profile 5 compliant file though.

jlpsvk
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by jlpsvk » Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:53 pm

jesus... just mux it with version I linked.... you don't need to change "level" in tsMuxer.

seleste
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by seleste » Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:26 am

Strange things started happening with mp4mux - on some (!!!) movies when trying to build just the dual layer video .mp4 file (BL+EL), the window blinks for a second and just creates an output .mp4 with zero length. On other movies works fine.
Been using that version for over a year with no problems.
Anyone got that behaviour, what's the reason for that? And how to fix it?

chrisandy
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by chrisandy » Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:38 am

jlpsvk wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:53 pm
jesus... just mux it with version I linked.... you don't need to change "level" in tsMuxer.
Thanks - I realized my error soon before you posted :-)

Edit #3: Got the .ts file to work with DV on Plex for Shield but it's constantly stuttering. Is this a KP?
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jlpsvk
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by jlpsvk » Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:34 pm

chrisandy wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:38 am
jlpsvk wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:53 pm
jesus... just mux it with version I linked.... you don't need to change "level" in tsMuxer.
Thanks - I realized my error soon before you posted :-)

Edit #3: Got the .ts file to work with DV on Plex for Shield but it's constantly stuttering. Is this a KP?

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you need to use BL+RPU, not BL+EL+RPU (MODE 2 of tool)

VictorLemon
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by VictorLemon » Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:52 pm

Hello, does anyone know how to add subtitles to the MP4 container without losing the DV?

a greeting

flashback8
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by flashback8 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:07 pm

sonysg wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:32 am
sonysg wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 5:23 am
Dear all,

I'm using OPPO 205 and Sony X950G

I have a problem when playing Dolby Vision disc or MP4 muxed Dolby Vision files

How could we enforced film to full screen(No Black bar) when play back DV contains? It said this operation is not permitted when I pressed "Zoom" on the Oppo's remote

I could do full screen easily on HDR10 but not in Dolby Vision format, only Full screen Dolby Vision contain could (i.e BumbleBee, Transformer 4) :( I wish I could to do that for every Dolby Vision titles to enhance the movie viewing experience

How to we bypass this restriction? it could because of the metadata of second layer(1920*1080) of Dolby Vision contains prevent this to be happened, because muxing Dolby Vision using MP4 container is possible now, I would like to save hard disk space and get rid of black bar whenever possible, Does MakeMKV allow or maximise the full screen properties when muxing in MP4 format?

Looking forward for your suggestion
I'm sorry to bumped up this question but no one seem to be giving me an overall idea on this
Is this restriction on the player itself or the DV authoring prevent the "Zoom" happening but its possible still on HDR10 contains
It's due to the processing chips being underpowered (or so Oppo claimed long ago). The 203/205 replacements presumably would've addressed that flaw, and others.

shawnc22
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by shawnc22 » Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:10 am

jlpsvk wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:34 pm
chrisandy wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:38 am
jlpsvk wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:53 pm
jesus... just mux it with version I linked.... you don't need to change "level" in tsMuxer.
Thanks - I realized my error soon before you posted :-)

Edit #3: Got the .ts file to work with DV on Plex for Shield but it's constantly stuttering. Is this a KP?

Annotation 2020-06-04 225541.png
you need to use BL+RPU, not BL+EL+RPU (MODE 2 of tool)
No you don't for the Shield and mode 2 of yusecope's tool gives you BL+EL+RPU, not BL+RPU.

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