Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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hehoheho
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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RESET_9999 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:39 pm
box4m wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:21 pm

Are you saying that x700 plays dual layer dolby vision mp4s? From network share or usb?
Where can i find more info?

Thx
Yes the x700 plays Dual & Single layer DV MP4 with LPCM 7.1 via USB. Some titles just wont play ( about 2 or 3) but I watched more than 100 DV dual layer with lossless audio without any problems.
I read somewhere(in this thread i think) that it also works from a network but the slow 100mbps ethernet port caused playback issues.

here's what is supported with the x700:

MP4 DV (SL & DL) + lpcm 7.1 = play perfectly fine. (subtitles dont work)
M2TS / TS + atmos = HDR10 only but atmos is supported.
MKV + atmos - HDR10 but atmos not supported (because the core is separated)
MKV + DTS-X / DTSHD = HDR10 and all the DTS family is supported.
Burned ISO = Dolby vision + atmos supported. (latest Tsmuxer can now create compliant DV bluray structure)https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=176668&page=16
no cinavia... But i only use it for DV mp4 remux, I wish there was a device that can do it all......
I use my HTPC for HDR10 and the new Shield for everything that is streaming....Netflix in DV + Atmos.. amazon, movies anywhere, vudu. etc...
Sorry for my english...

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Hi,

Would you please advise how to play ISO on X700 as per you mentioned?
It is dual layer Dolby Vision with Dolby Atmos plays at the same time? Could play with custom subtitle file as well?
And how about if the ISO is placed on NAS?

Thx!
RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 »

hehoheho wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:00 pm
Hi,

Would you please advise how to play ISO on X700 as per you mentioned?
It is dual layer Dolby Vision with Dolby Atmos plays at the same time? Could play with custom subtitle file as well?
And how about if the ISO is placed on NAS?

Thx!

sorry I meant a ISO burned on a bluray disc. You can't play ISO via USB or the network on the x700.

But there is a way better solution (as long as you dont care about menu and extra).
You can use the latest tsMuxer and remux the original m2ts straight to TS (or m2ts) and the file will play in dual layer Dolby Vision + Atmos + subs on the x700.
you can add custom subtitles file as well.

https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/t ... htly#files
jlpsvk
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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any special settings to encode BL??? yousesope's tools offen hangs when muxing encoded BL with EL. :(
box4m
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Btw, how do u know if a movie is in FEL or MEL? I know theres lists bluray forum, but if u didnt have that?
planet_hoarder
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by planet_hoarder »

box4m wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:24 am
Btw, how do u know if a movie is in FEL or MEL? I know theres lists bluray forum, but if u didnt have that?
you check bitrate of the EL, below 2.2Mbps is MEL, everything above is FEL.
box4m
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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planet_hoarder wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:40 am
box4m wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:24 am
Btw, how do u know if a movie is in FEL or MEL? I know theres lists bluray forum, but if u didnt have that?
you check bitrate of the EL, below 2.2Mbps is MEL, everything above is FEL.
and how do u check bitrate? mediainfo doesnt tell me
Gauvin 139
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Gauvin 139 »

Hello. First of all thank you for your work. Sorry for my bad english but i am french.
For yusesope, how did you get the file
Joker BL_RPU raw HEVC (my program - second version - identical to that of DVDFab)
Joker_dvhe.05.06_BL_RPU_Single_Track_Single_Layer
because it works well on my ATV4k combo, Infuse; Sony TV.
I have a little trouble understanding everything because I work with a google translator and there are many versions of different programs. I tried several times to make a version of Gemini Man with DV, but it still plays with HDR10 on my combo
Thank you
planet_hoarder
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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box4m wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:17 pm
planet_hoarder wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:40 am
box4m wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:24 am
Btw, how do u know if a movie is in FEL or MEL? I know theres lists bluray forum, but if u didnt have that?
you check bitrate of the EL, below 2.2Mbps is MEL, everything above is FEL.
and how do u check bitrate? mediainfo doesnt tell me
what do you mean mediainfo doesn't tell?

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Video #1
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Bit rate                                 : 81.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.163
Stream size                              : 66.2 GiB (83%)
Title                                    : Gemini.Man.2019.2160p.BluRay.REMUX.HEVC.DTS-HD.MA.TrueHD.7.1.Atmos-FGT
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 5180 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 1577 cd/m2

Video #2
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Bit rate                                 : 2 684 kb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.022
Stream size                              : 2.19 GiB (3%)
Title                                    : Gemini.Man.2019.2160p.BluRay.REMUX.HEVC.DTS-HD.MA.TrueHD.7.1.Atmos-FGT
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0010 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
BL Bitrate - 81Mb/s
EL Bitrate - 2 684 kb/s

Edit: My bad, this was dremuxed version... on the Disk it doesn't show, you are correct. Make an MKV remux and check the MediaInfo.
Last edited by planet_hoarder on Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:52 pm, edited 2 times in total.
RESET_9999
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by RESET_9999 »

planet_hoarder wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:41 pm
box4m wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:17 pm
planet_hoarder wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:40 am


you check bitrate of the EL, below 2.2Mbps is MEL, everything above is FEL.
and how do u check bitrate? mediainfo doesnt tell me
what do you mean mediainfo doesn't tell?
mediainfo doesnt say the bitrate when it's an original m2ts file.

But you can demux it and check the file size. MEL are smaller than 100mb and i've seen 8gb FEL.

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Format                                   : BDAV
Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
File size                                : 16.7 GiB
Duration                                 : 53 min 35 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 44.6 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 109 Mb/s

Video #1
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 53 min 35 s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 644 cd/m2

Video #2
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 53 min 35 s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
flashback8
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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On a related note, it looks like Nvidia 2019 Shield Pros are finally getting restocked. Just ordered one from B&H, and it looks like Newegg and Amazon have them too. Hurry if you want one too!
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Some weird stuff here. So I created an m2ts DV file of Schindler's List with the edited tsMuxer, and everything is cool... except that my Sony X700 somehow refuses to fast forward it or rewind! It just says - this operation is prohibited. Anybody encountered the same anomaly? I did many DV titles, but this is the first time I see something like this. What could that be? Maybe because the movie is over 3 hours? Or the file is 97Gb? What gives?
box4m
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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when using mp4muxer, initially it uses abit of cpu and disk i/o, but then it seems to do nothing for forever until its done?
i have 3900x @ 4,25GHz and pci-e 4.0 disk so it should not take forever, what is it doing? can i enable logs?

edit: instead of making another post i got another question:

1) demux BL+EL with tsMuxer (04.06 fix)) (that has worked well for me every time without mp4box)
2) demux TrueHD audio "ffmpeg.exe -i bluray:path/to/bluray -map 0:AUDIO_STREAM -c:a copy -strict -2 X:\atmos.mp4"
3) run yusecope tool with BL+EL only -mode 1
4) "mp4muxer_64bits.exe --dv-profile 4 --input-file "step3_output.hevc" --media-lang eng --output-file X:\mp4muxer_output_only_video.mp4"
5) "mp4box.exe -add X:\step4_output.mp4 -add X:\step2_output.mp4:lang=eng -brand mp42isom -ab dby1 X:\mp4box_out.mp4 -tmp X:\"

this file does not play with mxplayer on 2019 shield, i get "cant play file", with plex i get HDR10 only and weird behaviour, cant fastforward etc

What gives?
planet_hoarder
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by planet_hoarder »

box4m wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:08 am
when using mp4muxer, initially it uses abit of cpu and disk i/o, but then it seems to do nothing for forever until its done?
i have 3900x @ 4,25GHz and pci-e 4.0 disk so it should not take forever, what is it doing? can i enable logs?

edit: instead of making another post i got another question:

1) demux BL+EL with tsMuxer (04.06 fix)) (that has worked well for me every time without mp4box)
2) demux TrueHD audio "ffmpeg.exe -i bluray:path/to/bluray -map 0:AUDIO_STREAM -c:a copy -strict -2 X:\atmos.mp4"
3) run yusecope tool with BL+EL only -mode 1
4) "mp4muxer_64bits.exe --dv-profile 4 --input-file "step3_output.hevc" --media-lang eng --output-file X:\mp4muxer_output_only_video.mp4"
5) "mp4box.exe -add X:\step4_output.mp4 -add X:\step2_output.mp4:lang=eng -brand mp42isom -ab dby1 X:\mp4box_out.mp4 -tmp X:\"

this file does not play with mxplayer on 2019 shield, i get "cant play file", with plex i get HDR10 only and weird behaviour, cant fastforward etc

What gives?
your powerful CPU means nothing if program uses only one thread. Since it is run from CMD, then most probably it is.

AFAIK you can create an mp4 with TrueHD, but I am not sure any existent player can play TrueHD from mp4. That's why people are using tsMuxer to mix output from yusecope's tool and TrueHD+Atmos.
try to create a profile 8, that should work on Shield TV.
box4m
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by box4m »

planet_hoarder wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:40 pm
box4m wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:08 am
when using mp4muxer, initially it uses abit of cpu and disk i/o, but then it seems to do nothing for forever until its done?
i have 3900x @ 4,25GHz and pci-e 4.0 disk so it should not take forever, what is it doing? can i enable logs?

edit: instead of making another post i got another question:

1) demux BL+EL with tsMuxer (04.06 fix)) (that has worked well for me every time without mp4box)
2) demux TrueHD audio "ffmpeg.exe -i bluray:path/to/bluray -map 0:AUDIO_STREAM -c:a copy -strict -2 X:\atmos.mp4"
3) run yusecope tool with BL+EL only -mode 1
4) "mp4muxer_64bits.exe --dv-profile 4 --input-file "step3_output.hevc" --media-lang eng --output-file X:\mp4muxer_output_only_video.mp4"
5) "mp4box.exe -add X:\step4_output.mp4 -add X:\step2_output.mp4:lang=eng -brand mp42isom -ab dby1 X:\mp4box_out.mp4 -tmp X:\"

this file does not play with mxplayer on 2019 shield, i get "cant play file", with plex i get HDR10 only and weird behaviour, cant fastforward etc

What gives?
your powerful CPU means nothing if program uses only one thread. Since it is run from CMD, then most probably it is.

AFAIK you can create an mp4 with TrueHD, but I am not sure any existent player can play TrueHD from mp4. That's why people are using tsMuxer to mix output from yusecope's tool and TrueHD+Atmos.
try to create a profile 8, that should work on Shield TV.
I will try profile 8 thanks.
Regarding only using one thread, ye maybe, but its called mp4muxer_64bit

edit: where can i read about the profiles btw? dolby seems to have removed the pdf?
shawnc22
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by shawnc22 »

box4m wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:08 am
when using mp4muxer, initially it uses abit of cpu and disk i/o, but then it seems to do nothing for forever until its done?
i have 3900x @ 4,25GHz and pci-e 4.0 disk so it should not take forever, what is it doing? can i enable logs?

edit: instead of making another post i got another question:

1) demux BL+EL with tsMuxer (04.06 fix)) (that has worked well for me every time without mp4box)
2) demux TrueHD audio "ffmpeg.exe -i bluray:path/to/bluray -map 0:AUDIO_STREAM -c:a copy -strict -2 X:\atmos.mp4"
3) run yusecope tool with BL+EL only -mode 1
4) "mp4muxer_64bits.exe --dv-profile 4 --input-file "step3_output.hevc" --media-lang eng --output-file X:\mp4muxer_output_only_video.mp4"
5) "mp4box.exe -add X:\step4_output.mp4 -add X:\step2_output.mp4:lang=eng -brand mp42isom -ab dby1 X:\mp4box_out.mp4 -tmp X:\"

this file does not play with mxplayer on 2019 shield, i get "cant play file", with plex i get HDR10 only and weird behaviour, cant fastforward etc

What gives?
Why are you doing all of this if you have a shield? Also profile 8 is a single layer DV profile that has no EL support.
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