Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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the shield only supports dv profile 5. are you using the plex beta? I'm sure you are, but just in case, it's the only version that supports single layer dv.

yes, latest beta. I thought it would at least play the HDR10 layer but nop, black screen. the single layer mp4 works.
if I have more time tomorrow night, I'll try to remux the dvdfab single layer file to TS and play it with the shield.

I have a Vizio PX 75, I thought for sure it would work since the dolby ts test samples play just fine. it's not earc anyway though so it doesn't matter, as nothing would be gained.

it's a very cheap tv(M50-E1) that I use with my main PC. I'm not surprised that it doesn't work because most of the DV mp4 also plays in HDR10 only. it looks like it can't play the one with FEL DV.
surprising that it didn't play on the C8 though.

[Grencola]

if I have more time tomorrow night, I'll try to remux the dvdfab single layer file to TS and play it with the shield.

awesome, thx!

surprising that it didn't play on the C8 though.

that is quite strange, yeah.

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what's also interesting is the main video layer says dolby vision now as well as the secondary layer. it's like it's doing a mixture of what dvdfab does to single layer mp4s but also keeping the 2nd video track. this should be fine though, since it has the el+rpu and the full second layer, just weird why it applies it like that.

yep, I noticed that too. I hope it's not just the HDR10 layer with a DV flag. I'll do some screenshot comparison when I get a chance.

one thing is concerning, how come the atmos track says lossy under compression mode, with a bitrate of 640kbps / max 7134kbps? every disc I've been checking says lossless and bitrate is around 4000kbps/ max 7000kbps... it's like it's based on ac3 instead of truehd core or something.

yep, strange.. but I watched it for about 15min and i think the audio sounded like lossless atmos(AVR showed ATMOS).. bluray player OSD showed usual atmos bitrate...


EDIT... mmm wtf? Stream size : 616 MiB (1%)

EDIT2:
so to be sure, I demuxed the audio and the size is normal so it's just mediainfo that cant read it properly.
still say lossy though:

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Audio
Format                                   : AC-3 MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3 + Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Duration                                 : 17 h 24 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 7 134 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 4.67 GiB (100%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects                : 13
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

EDIT3:

it says the same thing on the original m2ts.. so everything is normal

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Complete name                            : M:\Jumanji.Welcome.to.the.Jungle.2017.DV\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts
Format                                   : BDAV
Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
File size                                : 52.4 GiB
Duration                                 : 1 h 59 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 63.0 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 128 Mb/s

Video #1
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 1 h 59 min
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 2013 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 393 cd/m2

Video #2
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 1 h 59 min
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2

Audio #1
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3 MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3 + Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 131
Duration                                 : 1 h 59 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 8 469 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 545 MiB (1%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects                : 11
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

[baker99]

DL DV Atmos TS muxes seem to work great here on my X700 too, not on the C6 over dlna though. Crashes my 2019 Shield using plex after briefly showing the DV logo. I'ts a shame the wi-fi and lan speed are so rubbish on the X700 or I'd be able to finally stream DV rips of my films, resorting to usb is a pain. I'll try a single layer conversion when I get chance, but I'm put off by DVDFab not using the correct colour space etc.

[Grencola]

DL DV Atmos TS muxes seem to work great here on my X700 too, not on the C6 over dlna though. Crashes my 2019 Shield using plex after briefly showing the DV logo. I'ts a shame the wi-fi and lan speed are so rubbish on the X700 or I'd be able to finally stream DV rips of my films, resorting to usb is a pain. I'll try a single layer conversion when I get chance, but I'm put off by DVDFab not using the correct colour space etc.

that would be great if you could test single layer ts on shield. you might be pleasantly surprised, the color space probably isn't exact but it's looks soo close to real dv and still much much better than reg hdr10. that, and the convenience of being on a shield would outweigh the difference imho.

[ragico]

DL DV Atmos TS muxes seem to work great here on my X700 too, not on the C6 over dlna though. Crashes my 2019 Shield using plex after briefly showing the DV logo. I'ts a shame the wi-fi and lan speed are so rubbish on the X700 or I'd be able to finally stream DV rips of my films, resorting to usb is a pain. I'll try a single layer conversion when I get chance, but I'm put off by DVDFab not using the correct colour space etc.

that would be great if you could test single layer ts on shield. you might be pleasantly surprised, the color space probably isn't exact but it's looks soo close to real dv and still much much better than reg hdr10. that, and the convenience of being on a shield would outweigh the difference imho.

How you do a single layer DV in Tsmuxer? It crashes if you load a dvdfab generated mp4 file (single or double layer)

[baker99]

DL DV Atmos TS muxes seem to work great here on my X700 too, not on the C6 over dlna though. Crashes my 2019 Shield using plex after briefly showing the DV logo. I'ts a shame the wi-fi and lan speed are so rubbish on the X700 or I'd be able to finally stream DV rips of my films, resorting to usb is a pain. I'll try a single layer conversion when I get chance, but I'm put off by DVDFab not using the correct colour space etc.

that would be great if you could test single layer ts on shield. you might be pleasantly surprised, the color space probably isn't exact but it's looks soo close to real dv and still much much better than reg hdr10. that, and the convenience of being on a shield would outweigh the difference imho.

How you do a single layer DV in Tsmuxer? It crashes if you load a dvdfab generated mp4 file (single or double layer)

I'm using w64-nightly-2020-02-23--01-10-39 and it hasn't crashed yet, it's currently at 17% processing a single layer DV mp4 created by DVDFab. Will keep you updated.

[Grencola]

I'm using w64-nightly-2020-02-23--01-10-39 and it hasn't crashed yet, it's currently at 17% processing a single layer DV mp4 created by DVDFab. Will keep you updated.

success?

[built_to_chill]

Has anyone else noticed subtle lip sync issues playing dual layer DV MP4s (with LPCM) on the X700?

I’ve noticed it a few times now when starting playing different files. Although it seems to perhaps correct itself after a bit.

Comparatively, discs always seem to have spot on lip sync.

[mattmarsden]

I'm using w64-nightly-2020-02-23--01-10-39 and it hasn't crashed yet, it's currently at 17% processing a single layer DV mp4 created by DVDFab. Will keep you updated.

success?

I've just muxed Cliffhanger with this build of Tsmuxer - I created the single layer mp4 with DVDFab and then added it to Tsmuxer. I might be noticing occasional stutters but I will need to do more testing. So far it seems to work and means you can add PGS subtitles and HD audio. I'm not entitely convinced yet on the single layer file made by DVDfab, I seem to be ssing patchy cyan/blue colours in certain whites. Again more testinf required.

[baker99]

I'm using w64-nightly-2020-02-23--01-10-39 and it hasn't crashed yet, it's currently at 17% processing a single layer DV mp4 created by DVDFab. Will keep you updated.

success?

I've just muxed Cliffhanger with this build of Tsmuxer - I created the single layer mp4 with DVDFab and then added it to Tsmuxer. I might be noticing occasional stutters but I will need to do more testing. So far it seems to work and means you can add PGS subtitles and HD audio. I'm not entitely convinced yet on the single layer file made by DVDfab, I seem to be ssing patchy cyan/blue colours in certain whites. Again more testinf required.

I chose a difficult title that appears to use multiple m2ts files, the results last night were that it wouldn't play correctly, I think due to the atmos track, I'm trying again today using a different method.

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I’m not having much luck with the X700:

- Dual layer DV MP4s with LPCM audio have lip sync issues. It’s subtle and comes and goes - but is frequently there. Could be related to my setup (a Denon AVR)

- Anything I create with tsMuxer seems to be corrupt (skipping, audio and video completely out of sync). This is regardless of using Dolby vision MP4s - the common driver seems to be thd+ac3 files created using eac3to. I’m using eac3to via wine on Ubuntu so maybe that’s the problem.

[Grencola]

I chose a difficult title that appears to use multiple m2ts files, the results last night were that it wouldn't play correctly, I think due to the atmos track, I'm trying again today using a different method.

try just dragging the largest m2ts file from your bdmv/streams/ folder into tsmuxer for now..

[superfans124]

Has anyone else noticed subtle lip sync issues playing dual layer DV MP4s (with LPCM) on the X700?

I’ve noticed it a few times now when starting playing different files. Although it seems to perhaps correct itself after a bit.

Comparatively, discs always seem to have spot on lip sync.

oh yeah, I do experience that audio delay with x700. I think I tried the Deer Hunter, was way out of sync, maybe by 800ms. Played the mp4 on PC, in sync, on x700, out of sync. Not every title is out of sync, and not every out of sync title is off by the same duration. It's this random nature that drew me off. I think I'll jump over to projectors sooner or later, get a Penny ub820 and forget about having to deal with DV at all. lol.

[built_to_chill]

Has anyone else noticed subtle lip sync issues playing dual layer DV MP4s (with LPCM) on the X700?

I’ve noticed it a few times now when starting playing different files. Although it seems to perhaps correct itself after a bit.

Comparatively, discs always seem to have spot on lip sync.

oh yeah, I do experience that audio delay with x700. I think I tried the Deer Hunter, was way out of sync, maybe by 800ms. Played the mp4 on PC, in sync, on x700, out of sync. Not every title is out of sync, and not every out of sync title is off by the same duration. It's this random nature that drew me off. I think I'll jump over to projectors sooner or later, get a Penny ub820 and forget about having to deal with DV at all. lol.

Thanks for confirming. Good to know its not just me.