Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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shawnc22
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by shawnc22 » Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:02 pm

Liersi wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:39 pm
shawnc22 wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:36 pm
Yes it’s the only container at the moment that can do dv + atmos. MP4 does not support atmos audio
Figured as much and started testing. I'm using Plex on Shield as that's supposed to work. Latest Tsmuxer nightly on Win10 (w64-nightly-2020-06-27--02-14-32). Image stays black on playback. DV confirmed working with streaming on the same setup. Mediainfo shows DV in the resulting file, I'll attach the rundown:

General
ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 47.5 GiB
Duration : 1 h 45 min
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 64.7 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mb/s

Video
ID : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Commercial name : HDR10
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
Dolby Vision : 1.0, dvhe.06.06, BL+EL+RPU
Codec ID : 6
Duration : 1 h 45 min
Bit rate : 61.4 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 24.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.309
Stream size : 45.2 GiB (95%)
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : BT.2020
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level : 630 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 460 cd/m2

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3 MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3 + Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 131
Duration : 1 h 45 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 7 896 kb/s
Channel(s) : 8 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 482 MiB (1%)
Service kind : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects : 11
Bed channel count : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration : LFE

Text
ID : 4768 (0x12A0)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Codec ID : 144

Seems to all be there, just won't play. Does anyone see aynthing that's obviously wrong?
Could be an issue with the nightly. Try the exact same steps but with this version here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q5v4-J ... gPqCD/view

Liersi
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Liersi » Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:55 pm

shawnc22 wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:02 pm
Could be an issue with the nightly. Try the exact same steps but with this version here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q5v4-J ... gPqCD/view
That worked. At least initially, now I can't get it to recognize the DV anymore in Plex, but it worked. The inconsistency may be due to the unusual setup with the Vertex2 emulating a compatible EDID. I'll look there first and see if I can fix it. Thanks a lot for the help Shawn.

I hope an mkv-based solution and playback in Kodi are in the near future.

EDIT: playback in DV works reliably on the AT4K. Issue's on the Shield or with Plex. Working on it.

planet_hoarder
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by planet_hoarder » Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:43 am

Liersi wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:55 pm
shawnc22 wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:02 pm
Could be an issue with the nightly. Try the exact same steps but with this version here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q5v4-J ... gPqCD/view
That worked. At least initially, now I can't get it to recognize the DV anymore in Plex, but it worked. The inconsistency may be due to the unusual setup with the Vertex2 emulating a compatible EDID. I'll look there first and see if I can fix it. Thanks a lot for the help Shawn.

I hope an mkv-based solution and playback in Kodi are in the near future.

EDIT: playback in DV works reliably on the AT4K. Issue's on the Shield or with Plex. Working on it.
you can also try profile 8 with nightly release tsMuxer from 16-th March 2020.
https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/t ... 1-36#files

I read it works on Shield (with lossless), and works on LG WebOS (without lossless)

Liersi
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Liersi » Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:13 pm

planet_hoarder wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:43 am
you can also try profile 8 with nightly release tsMuxer from 16-th March 2020.
https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/t ... 1-36#files

I read it works on Shield (with lossless), and works on LG WebOS (without lossless)
Just in time for the testing tonight. Thank you very much! The 04.06 fix version appears to work, the Shield TV always picks up DV given the right player (MrMC is reliable). I'm still struggling with my projector not triggering its HDR mode, but that isn't due to the file I believe. But who knows, I'll report back if this works, and how well it does if it does. Have a bunch of re-ripped mkvs from my backups (thank you foresight) ready for remuxing.

userr
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by userr » Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:44 pm

Liersi wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:13 pm
planet_hoarder wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:43 am
you can also try profile 8 with nightly release tsMuxer from 16-th March 2020.
https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/t ... 1-36#files

I read it works on Shield (with lossless), and works on LG WebOS (without lossless)
Just in time for the testing tonight. Thank you very much! The 04.06 fix version appears to work, the Shield TV always picks up DV given the right player (MrMC is reliable). I'm still struggling with my projector not triggering its HDR mode, but that isn't due to the file I believe. But who knows, I'll report back if this works, and how well it does if it does. Have a bunch of re-ripped mkvs from my backups (thank you foresight) ready for remuxing.
are you saying youre playing profile 4 (04.06) mp4 in MrMc on 2019 shield?

shawnc22
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by shawnc22 » Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:09 pm

Liersi wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:13 pm
planet_hoarder wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:43 am
you can also try profile 8 with nightly release tsMuxer from 16-th March 2020.
https://bintray.com/justdan96/tsMuxer/t ... 1-36#files

I read it works on Shield (with lossless), and works on LG WebOS (without lossless)
Just in time for the testing tonight. Thank you very much! The 04.06 fix version appears to work, the Shield TV always picks up DV given the right player (MrMC is reliable). I'm still struggling with my projector not triggering its HDR mode, but that isn't due to the file I believe. But who knows, I'll report back if this works, and how well it does if it does. Have a bunch of re-ripped mkvs from my backups (thank you foresight) ready for remuxing.
I'm guessing you've been following the steps from here?

https://www.avforums.com/threads/dolby- ... s.2254350/

If so, it's probably not the file that's the issue. Nevermind that profile 8 is wrong for these kind of files, it's not going to matter much on the Shield. It's surprising though that you've been having issues with Plex. Have you been turning off PGS subtitles? If you're worried about your remux process, give these sample files a try:

https://mega.nz/file/YSxhkSLK#fkfy54tYV ... xIOBZLyGR4 (MEL)

https://mega.nz/file/MHpBBLjK#4bM5jsNgP ... glhYbzLcQ0 (FEL)

Liersi
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Liersi » Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:47 pm

shawnc22 wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:09 pm
I'm guessing you've been following the steps from here?

https://www.avforums.com/threads/dolby- ... s.2254350/

If so, it's probably not the file that's the issue. Nevermind that profile 8 is wrong for these kind of files, it's not going to matter much on the Shield. It's surprising though that you've been having issues with Plex. Have you been turning off PGS subtitles? If you're worried about your remux process, give these sample files a try:

https://mega.nz/file/YSxhkSLK#fkfy54tYV ... xIOBZLyGR4 (MEL)

https://mega.nz/file/MHpBBLjK#4bM5jsNgP ... glhYbzLcQ0 (FEL)
Thank you Shawn. I hadn't seen that thread on avforums. A helpful HDfury rep on AVSforum spotted my problem like a hawk and solved it. The thread you linked to would have solved it as well. You need to force an HDR frame in another tab to make it work. Somehow overlooked that in the instructions I followed. Thanks again for following up on this, that's very gracious of you.

EDIT: by the way, you were also right about Plex. MrMC started crashing, and with this latest fix, Plex is working swimmingly. Cheers for that, too.

BringerChaos
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by BringerChaos » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:13 pm

Is it possible to re encode the BL.hevc and use that along with the EL.hevc to make a smaller sized Dolby Vision capable file?

MartyMcNuts
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by MartyMcNuts » Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:14 am

BringerChaos wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:13 pm
Is it possible to re encode the BL.hevc and use that along with the EL.hevc to make a smaller sized Dolby Vision capable file?
Yes, check my posts in this very thread. (page #170)
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by userr » Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:31 am

Cant delete post so i just edit it and remove it, cause question has been answered
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Liersi
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Liersi » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:02 am

userr wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:44 pm
are you saying youre playing profile 4 (04.06) mp4 in MrMc on 2019 shield?
I only saw this question now. As you probably read further down, MrMC crashes after a while. Didn't realize this while testing short clips. They're .ts in my case, not .mp4, but I'm sure it comes to the same thing. MrMC does pick up on the DV more reliably than Plex, though, so I'm sad that is ultimately crashes. Last night, Plex wasn't sending LLDV at all with any of the files that worked previously.

stehohrhase
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by stehohrhase » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:15 pm

Is it possible to convert FEL -> MEL or use only RPU ?
FEL is to much data.

planet_hoarder
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by planet_hoarder » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:51 pm

stehohrhase wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:15 pm
Is it possible to convert FEL -> MEL or use only RPU ?
FEL is to much data.
so far not possible to convert FEL to MEL, but you can use yusecope's tool in mode 2, I think, it creates BL+RPU

stehohrhase
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by stehohrhase » Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:37 am

I have recode/shrink my BL. It is now 10 GB.
EL (FEL) is 11 GB.

I have use yoseptools in Mode 2. Result: Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.05.06, BL+RPU / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible.

But final size is 21 GB.

sullenhell
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by sullenhell » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:49 pm

I have a few MP4 DV files that play blank screen with audio on my TCL Roku R613. From reading this thread I believe it's because they need to be profile 4/5. Is there an easy way to convert those MP4 files to profile 4/5 or would I have to start from scratch?

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