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I share this picture to discuss possible reasons why Shield TV Player-led STDL very close to Oppo TV-led DTDL
Any ideas?
Pay attention on yellow beak

lexyz wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:28 pm

I share this picture to discuss possible reasons why Shield TV Player-led STDL very close to Oppo TV-led DTDL
Any ideas?
Pay attention on yellow beak

What type of uhd Tv is the tv-led dv ?
Sorry but oppo don’t look that good to me.
X700 takes it all lol.

lexyz wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:28 pm

I share this picture to discuss possible reasons why Shield TV Player-led STDL very close to Oppo TV-led DTDL
Any ideas?
Pay attention on yellow beak

top picture is from the Vincent video ??
As I told you in PM, you can't compare the images from his video/TV with the images from your camera/TV. it means nothing
Not the same room, not the same tv, not the same camera / settings etc...
On my calibrated monitor, all 4 pictures look completely different and the shield picture doesnt look at all close to the oppo tv-led but as i said, its meaningless.

zxaura1 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:43 am

Hello there...
Does anyone knows why my LG E6 plays many DV movies in a green tint (like all Mission Impossible etc) and if there is a solution to it?
Thanks in advance

it's related to the metadata.. If i remember correctly , the combination of Mastering display luminance 1000 nits and P3 color causes the green screen issue on 2016 OLED LG TVs. The solution is an external player like the x700, the shield or FirestickTV.
it was discussed a long time ago when the mp4muxer came out.

Manixx2020beyound wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:09 pm

Sorry but oppo don’t look that good to me.
X700 takes it all lol.

I don't think so... Vincent said he tested the Panasonic bluray player as well.
Also,  Stacey Spears (creator of Spears and Munsil) confirmed that all the bluray players will have this issue when doing player-led DV.







EDIT: Also it sounds like @pete was right about FEL being 422, or Don't I understand whats Stacey is saying ?

shawnc22 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:16 am

MastaG wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:12 am

So which players are capable of playing FEL remuxes from network sources (Plex/Emby/SMB), e.g. the full deal retaining the 12bit 4000nits final picture like when playing the original disc?
e.g. remuxed into a TS or MKV container so I can add a high def audio track?

From network? The oppo and that's it.

I just acquired a Sony UBP-x800M2 and it can play m2ts (BDMV folders aren't supported) DV remuxes created by tsMuxeR over the network (albeit via DLNA only - I'm using built in DLNA app on my Synology NASes to serve up content to the X800M2).

glc650 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:14 pm

shawnc22 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:16 am

MastaG wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:12 am

So which players are capable of playing FEL remuxes from network sources (Plex/Emby/SMB), e.g. the full deal retaining the 12bit 4000nits final picture like when playing the original disc?
e.g. remuxed into a TS or MKV container so I can add a high def audio track?

From network? The oppo and that's it.

I just acquired a Sony UBP-x800M2 and it can play m2ts (BDMV folders aren't supported) DV remuxes created by TSmuxeR over the network (albeit via DLNA only - I'm using built in DLNA app on my Synology NASes to serve up content to the X800M2).

Does it have 100mbit Ethernet though? That will be too slow for some titles. X700 I believe is the same.

PlatypusW wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:15 pm

glc650 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:14 pm

shawnc22 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:16 am

From network? The oppo and that's it.

I just acquired a Sony UBP-x800M2 and it can play m2ts (BDMV folders aren't supported) DV remuxes created by TSmuxeR over the network (albeit via DLNA only - I'm using built in DLNA app on my Synology NASes to serve up content to the X800M2).

Does it have 100mbit Ethernet though? That will be too slow for some titles. X700 I believe is the same.

It does, but it also supports 802.11ac (WiFi 5) albeit only 1x1 but that's still enough to get me well over 100mbps (connected to my UAP-AC-HD at ~300 or higher every time I've checked).

I found the wifi on both my C8 and the "MIMO" 2.4GHz wifi on the X700 slower than 100Mbit ethernet. They stuttered more streaming from my Synology than the wired connection. This is from an enterprise grade access point <1m from the TV/X700. For the <5 titles I have watched in the past couple years that required more than 100Mbit I have just used a USB thumb drive. Glad to hear the X800M2 has better performing wifi.

lexyz wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:28 pm

I share this picture to discuss possible reasons why Shield TV Player-led STDL very close to Oppo TV-led DTDL
Any ideas?
Pay attention on yellow beak

shield image has incorrect hue/saturation on the beak (compared to tv-led), besides the color artifacts/clipping

Guys, don't compare hue sharpness, brightness or clipping
I can't set my camera and TV to match Vincent's
Do not make conclusion about this parameters


Only thing to look at is the shape of yellow spot
Zoom in if you're on mobile.
Can't you see the similarities and differences?

lexyz wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:12 am

Guys, don't compare hue sharpness, brightness or clipping
I can't set my camera and TV to match Vincent's
Do not make conclusion about this parameters


Only thing to look at is the shape of yellow spot
Zoom in if you're on mobile.
Can't you see the similarities and differences?

Ive always found the output from the Oppo to be very Natural and not over saturated,is that not what we are looking for? That’s certainly what I see in your pic.

Ok
I desaturated whole picture but point of interest
For my eye Shield's STDL more close to Oppo TV-led than Oppo or X700 Player-led
Why?

SMH...
sorry to repeat myself but you can't draw ANY conclusion by comparing some videos on youtube with your own TV photo... it's just meaningless and useless (not scientific)...
the only valid comparison here is the shield vs x700 assuming you used exactly the same camera settings which we CAN'T confirm when you put the images like that...

RESET_9999 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:18 pm

Manixx2020beyound wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:09 pm

Sorry but oppo don’t look that good to me.
X700 takes it all lol.

I don't think so... Vincent said he tested the Panasonic bluray player as well.
Also,  Stacey Spears (creator of Spears and Munsil) confirmed that all the bluray players will have this issue when doing player-led DV.







EDIT: Also it sounds like @pete was right about FEL being 422, or Don't I understand whats Stacey is saying ?

Have you checked with your HDFury device to see if the x700 is allowing TV led Dolby Vision?
In the image you have attached above, Stacey says:

The difference is OPPO lets you force one over the other while the others use EDID in the display to decide which mode to use.

TickTock wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:21 pm

Have you checked with your HDFury device to see if the x700 is allowing TV led Dolby Vision?
In the image you have attached above, Stacey says:

Yes, the x700 support both DV format. My Vertex report RGB 8bit (tv-led).