Progress on AACS 2.1?

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filmgeek47
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Progress on AACS 2.1?

Post by filmgeek47 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:05 pm

I know this is something lots of people are asking about, but I was wondering if there are any updates on getting access to these keys for MakeMKV? Fury is the only 4K disk I can't backup!

Thanks!

MartyMcNuts
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Re: Progress on AACS 2.1?

Post by MartyMcNuts » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:23 pm

Tell me about it! (hahaha, No pressure there Mike!!)

I refuse to buy DeUHD to be able to back-up 1 movie!!

SamuriHL
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Re: Progress on AACS 2.1?

Post by SamuriHL » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:38 pm

He's likely been busy on some "small" feature he added called LibreDrive but that's just a guess. LOL AACS 2.1 support is a lot of work for 2 titles. I'm sure Mike's probably thought about it but when you're just one developer you have to prioritize features that are going to help them most people. At least, that's how I develop. LOL I'm obviously only theorizing as I don't know what Mike is or isn't working on but this is my guess on why it's not done yet.

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Re: Progress on AACS 2.1?

Post by Deano86 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:49 pm

Exactly!.... It's weird.....I actually have no problem going to the effort of loading and unloading an actual disc and letting it spin to watch 1 title(Fury)... lol! :D

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Re: Progress on AACS 2.1?

Post by Krawk » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:32 pm

Sometimes it is a matter of principle. Eventually there will be more than 2 titles that use it.

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Re: Progress on AACS 2.1?

Post by SamuriHL » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:34 pm

And eventually it'd probably move higher on the priority list. :)

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Re: Progress on AACS 2.1?

Post by smartieyoung » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:41 pm

I just wanted to mention i was able to backup both regular bluray not 4k yet,i thought both versions of the movies both 4k and regular Blu-ray shared same 2.1 encryption :?: i was able to access the fury movie and patriot content on hard drive after using makemkv.i repeat 4k disc still not working but Blu-ray 1080 will decrypt

SamuriHL
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Re: Progress on AACS 2.1?

Post by SamuriHL » Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:21 am

Blu-ray uses AACS 1.x so that makes sense. UHD is using the more secure AACS 2.x.

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Re: Progress on AACS 2.1?

Post by st4evr » Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:44 am

smartieyoung wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:41 pm
I just wanted to mention i was able to backup both regular bluray not 4k yet,i thought both versions of the movies both 4k and regular Blu-ray shared same 2.1 encryption :?: i was able to access the fury movie and patriot content on hard drive after using makemkv.i repeat 4k disc still not working but Blu-ray 1080 will decrypt
As SamuriHL mentioned, yeah... that’s NOT how AACS versioning works. Would be too expensive and could cause playback compatibility problems in too many scenarios to have standard BDs on AACS 2.x. It’s forward thinking. A UHD BD on 1.x yes, that will work. There is at least one out there like this. But NOT the other way around.

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Re: Progress on AACS 2.1?

Post by smartieyoung » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:13 pm

OK my bad i was confused,i didn't realize that,i'm still learning the difference between aacs 1.x and accs 2.1x, i still find it interesting that just fury and the patriot are so far the only accs 2.1 discs i wonder if the industry is running experiments on us uhd rippers :wink:

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Re: Progress on AACS 2.1?

Post by Louie » Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:02 am

yes i agree would like to see this fixed i have THE PATRIOT and FURY with aacs 2.1 that i cant backup and i will not purchase DEUHD just to make backup copies of these 2 discs so would like to see this fixed Mike no pressure

filmgeek47
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Re: Progress on AACS 2.1?

Post by filmgeek47 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:45 pm

To be clear, I didn't mean this topic to come off as "why isn't this fixed!" I really appreciate all the hard work Mike's done on this program over the years. Being able to rip this stuff is fantastic, both as a matter of principal and convenience.

For those asking why it's relevant... 4K disk players are still stupidly expensive for those on a budget, and I don't have one. I've got a desktop drive capable of ripping, and a Vero that can playback the files, but I literally don't own a device that can play back a UHD disc on my home theater system.

I'm also no expert (obviously), but I'd imagine that if 2.1 is more difficult to crack, more distributors will start using it, and the number of locked discs will go up.

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Re: Progress on AACS 2.1?

Post by midnighwatcher » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:47 pm

Any progress to share on this one by chance? Also, does the Bluray that's included with the 4K package also include the same Atmos track found on the 4K disc, or is it the same as the Bluray-only release?

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Re: Progress on AACS 2.1?

Post by MartyMcNuts » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:45 am

midnighwatcher wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:47 pm
Any progress to share on this one by chance? Also, does the Bluray that's included with the 4K package also include the same Atmos track found on the 4K disc, or is it the same as the Bluray-only release?
The Blu Ray disc only has DTS-HDMA 5.1. I think this is very low on Mike's priority list.

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Re: Progress on AACS 2.1?

Post by smartieyoung » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:30 pm

I was thinking that if more people where to buy 4l movies there would more workarounds on internet for these two movies but as far as i can tell right now the only way to get patriot and fury is buy deuhd which i think cost too much.

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