Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

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SamuriHL
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by SamuriHL » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:13 pm

Impressive. Most impressive!

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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by Twister20 » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:36 pm

If I used DVDFab to backup a UHD disc to an .ISO, can I use MakeMKV 1.15.2 to make a MKV that now has full DV + TrueHD/Atmos content? Does DVDFab do the dual layer to single layer conversion so that DV rips will soon playback, for example, on the nVidia Shield 2019 that (from my understanding) can't play dual layer rips? What if I wanted to playback on a 4K ATV? Does the audio need any modifications to playback Atmos tracks?

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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by flashback8 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:50 am

yusesope wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:16 pm
Hello beautiful people!
Just a small update: I revised my code (Exoplayer) after the release of version 1.15.2.
@shawnc22 has just tested (on the new Shield) an apk that i have prepared.
The mkv test file is played correctly and Dolby Vision is successfully triggered.

In the next few days I will release a test version of my apk here on the forum.
At the same time I will try to understand how the h e l l GitHub works in order to be able to review the code together with @shawnc22 and @steffenmanden and present the finished work to the Exoplayer team.
Great! If you need help with GitHub, let me know. It's really not that bad once you get the hang of it.

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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by SamuriHL » Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:51 am

I have a SHIELD question. When I made all my TS files I made them profile 4. Now MakeMKV is ripping them to profile 7. Is the SHIELD going to be able to play those?

EDIT:

What I mean is this....

ts: Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU
mkv: Codec: MpegH HEVC Main10@L5.1 (dvhe.07.06 BL+EL+RPU FEL)

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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by shawnc22 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:11 am

SamuriHL wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:51 am
I have a SHIELD question. When I made all my TS files I made them profile 4. Now MakeMKV is ripping them to profile 7. Is the SHIELD going to be able to play those?

EDIT:

What I mean is this....

ts: Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU
mkv: Codec: MpegH HEVC Main10@L5.1 (dvhe.07.06 BL+EL+RPU FEL)
Yusecope has mentioned in the past that he thinks when the Shield decoder encounters an unsupported profile (7 in this case), it will look at the raw video stream and fallback to a similar supported profile for playback. From testing with TS files in the past, the same video stream when stored as either 4 (supported), or 6/7 (unsupported) all work without issue and produces the same image. The mkv's I've tried so far from 1.15.1 and 1.15.2 all have worked despite being labeled as profile 7, so it does seem like profile labeling is not that important as far as the Shield is concerned. Now that @RESET_9999 has found a workaround for the red push issue, the last bit of mystery is to just determine what exact the Shield is doing when playing FEL titles :D

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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by SamuriHL » Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:15 am

shawnc22 wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:11 am

Yusecope has mentioned in the past that he thinks when the Shield decoder encounters an unsupported profile (7 in this case), it will look at the raw video stream and fallback to a similar supported profile for playback. From testing with TS files in the past, the same video stream when stored as either 4 (supported), or 6/7 (unsupported) all work without issue and produces the same image. The mkv's I've tried so far from 1.15.1 and 1.15.2 all have worked despite being labeled as profile 7, so it does seem like profile labeling is not that important as far as the Shield is concerned. Now that @RESET_9999 has found a workaround for the red push issue, the last bit of mystery is to just determine what exact the Shield is doing when playing FEL titles :D
Excellent. I'm hoping FEL "accidentally works" even though we know it's not supposed to be supported. And yes, REST_9999's solution worked for me, as well, so, I'm just waiting for a player. I'm reripping a bunch of titles right now as we speak. It's very nice to have rip lock begone(tm). :D I got 2 NS60's going right now. Fantastic!

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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by shawnc22 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:19 am

SamuriHL wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:15 am
Excellent. I'm hoping FEL "accidentally works" even though we know it's not supposed to be supported. And yes, REST_9999's solution worked for me, as well, so, I'm just waiting for a player. I'm reripping a bunch of titles right now as we speak. It's very nice to have rip lock begone(tm). :D I got 2 NS60's going right now. Fantastic!
Have all my decrypted backups still so no torturing of my drives needed this time around 8)

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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by bobbymkV » Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:28 am

What's the workaround for the red push issue? I have been following this thread for awhile and don't recall that discussion.

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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by Epedemic » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:07 am

SamuriHL wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:15 am
shawnc22 wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:11 am

Yusecope has mentioned in the past that he thinks when the Shield decoder encounters an unsupported profile (7 in this case), it will look at the raw video stream and fallback to a similar supported profile for playback. From testing with TS files in the past, the same video stream when stored as either 4 (supported), or 6/7 (unsupported) all work without issue and produces the same image. The mkv's I've tried so far from 1.15.1 and 1.15.2 all have worked despite being labeled as profile 7, so it does seem like profile labeling is not that important as far as the Shield is concerned. Now that @RESET_9999 has found a workaround for the red push issue, the last bit of mystery is to just determine what exact the Shield is doing when playing FEL titles :D
Excellent. I'm hoping FEL "accidentally works" even though we know it's not supposed to be supported. And yes, REST_9999's solution worked for me, as well, so, I'm just waiting for a player. I'm reripping a bunch of titles right now as we speak. It's very nice to have rip lock begone(tm). :D I got 2 NS60's going right now. Fantastic!
Just to be clear, and sure i'm not missing anything: RESET_9990s solution for red push involves buing a vertex right? :P

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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by SamuriHL » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:13 am

shawnc22 wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:19 am
Have all my decrypted backups still so no torturing of my drives needed this time around 8)
I wasn't as smart. And it IS torturing my drives. I keep forgetting these discs don't age well and every time I have to pull them off the shelf they get harder and harder to read. I just don't have the space to store them all as ISO's, even temporarily til we get the DV situation sorted out. So here I am, ripping away. LOL I had to throttle the NS60's a bit. I'm still learning where the sweet spot is with these things.

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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by SamuriHL » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:14 am

Epedemic wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:07 am
Just to be clear, and sure i'm not missing anything: RESET_9990s solution for red push involves buing a vertex right? :P
Yes. :) I already have an Integral 2 so it works just fine for me, as well.

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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by chrisandy » Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:52 am

Hey all,

Just want to make sure I understand.

Currently if we use the new MakeMKV we will get a MKV that supports DV.

Will this play via Plex on Shield or native LG app?

If not currently, is it the expectation that is what will happen?

SamuriHL
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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by SamuriHL » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:13 am

Not currently. They need to update the players. This is the second step in a 3 step process to getting where we all want to be. First the mkv standard had to be finished. That is complete. Then makemkv had to be updated to output to the new standard. That is also now complete so we can rerip our dv movies to mkv. The final step is player support. This will take some time before that happens. No one knows for sure how long.

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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by cipher » Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:48 am

yusesope wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:16 pm
Hello beautiful people!
Just a small update: I revised my code (Exoplayer) after the release of version 1.15.2.
@shawnc22 has just tested (on the new Shield) an apk that i have prepared.
The mkv test file is played correctly and Dolby Vision is successfully triggered.

In the next few days I will release a test version of my apk here on the forum.
At the same time I will try to understand how the h e l l GitHub works in order to be able to review the code together with @shawnc22 and @steffenmanden and present the finished work to the Exoplayer team.
That is great news, yusesope!

For the Exoplayer APK, does this replace the version used by Plex on the Shield 2019?

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Re: Dolby Vision and 1.15.1

Post by XxSpiritvsxX » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:10 am

Twister20 wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:36 pm
If I used DVDFab to backup a UHD disc to an .ISO, can I use MakeMKV 1.15.2 to make a MKV that now has full DV + TrueHD/Atmos content?
Yes you can.

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