Back to the Future won't read on my ASUS drive

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ZANTHERA
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Re: Back to the Future won't read on my ASUS drive

Post by ZANTHERA » Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:02 pm

kurayamino wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:57 am
This isn't a firmware or drive problem. There is a thin film on the bottom of the discs left over from the manufacturing process which causes these read errors. I put some 99% isopropyl alcohol on soft toilet paper and carefully but firmly wiped across the bottom of the discs. After the alcohol evaporated I wiped them down again using a microfiber cloth to remove any residue from the alcohol.

All three discs worked perfectly afterwards.
Looks like you're bang on saying this, I tried transferring the first disc and it wouldn't work but then I saw your post and used 99% iso alcohol to gently clean the bottom with a new microfibre cloth and then wiped it again with a clean bit to get it totally clean, my drive then opened and transferred it perfectly fine!

I've just done the exact same thing with the disc for Part II, I tried it first straight out of the case but it would just loop attempting to read it for ages and get nowhere, I take it out, do the same thing with the iso alcohol, put it back in and it read it perfectly fine the second time round.

My set is the regular UK digipack boxset from amazon which they also do at Zavvi, my drive is an ASUS BC-12D2HT version 3.11 and I'm using MakeMKV version 1.15.3 with no settings changed.

Digital moe
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Re: Back to the Future won't read on my ASUS drive

Post by Digital moe » Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:00 pm

kurayamino wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:57 am
This isn't a firmware or drive problem. There is a thin film on the bottom of the discs left over from the manufacturing process which causes these read errors. I put some 99% isopropyl alcohol on soft toilet paper and carefully but firmly wiped across the bottom of the discs. After the alcohol evaporated I wiped them down again using a microfiber cloth to remove any residue from the alcohol.

All three discs worked perfectly afterwards.
I have had so many problems with part 2 and 3, I was about to return the set for a replacement having already tried cleaning them.

So decided to give this method a go, first time still no dice my drive sounds like it is grinding, did it a second time, this time just left the isopropyl on the disc for 20 minutes and then really gave it a good buffing with a microfiber cloth. Honestly I did it so much I was thinking this is how you break a disc but windows has now actually recognised the disc and the drive is almost silent. Hopefully the rip completes now.

Fingers crossed I can do the same with 3. But I can not recommend this post enough.

Edit: Part 2 successfully ripped and did the same to Part 3 and that is now running nice and silent in my drive as well.

Edit 2: And Part 3 done as well.

CudaCores
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Re: Back to the Future won't read on my ASUS drive

Post by CudaCores » Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:45 am

I had the exact same issues with my boxset today, however after getting some super soft toilet paper and gently cleaning with 91% Isopropyl Alcohol, they are reading and backing up just fine.

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Re: Back to the Future won't read on my ASUS drive

Post by Bluntman » Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:20 pm

Guess I should be thankful. My 3 movies ripped in 4K first try with my asus on 3.02 with full speed enabled. Think I saw 11.6x at one point. Either way I’m saddened to hear people are having such issues.


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Digital moe
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Re: Back to the Future won't read on my ASUS drive

Post by Digital moe » Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:36 pm

Man just want to say, thanks to the advice on this thread I have now been able to rip a bunch of discs in my collection that would just fail, not get recognised or produce some kind of error. I have managed to get all of those ripped over the last few days. Now feeling a bit better about having the Game of Thrones boxset on preorder. Was starting to think that was going to be a nightmare.

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Re: Back to the Future won't read on my ASUS drive

Post by Merlyn6175 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:02 pm

Just ripped BTTF 1 & 2 using BW-16D1HT Revision: 3.02 with MakeMKVv1.15.3 using a trick that has worked every time with 3 layer discs.

Inserted BTTF 1, drive didn't want to know.(seeking and clicking noise)
removed Power & SATA to drive with disc still in (have an open case PC)
wait 20 seconds insert SATA then Power.
and boom drive reads disc and windows shows disc.
load MakeMKV and Disc ripped as normal

BTTF 2 I had to do it twice as MakeMKV got stuck on the CER process and drive started its seeking and clicking,
but ripped fine. once re-powered

this works for me, maybe it will help someone else.

VarHD
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Re: Back to the Future won't read on my ASUS drive

Post by VarHD » Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:17 pm

Does anyone here who reported issues with any of those 3 discs also own an "official" UHD drive? If so, have you tested it there?

I'm just curious if this is a general issue with all UHD-friendly drives or a general issue with some lower quality discs... and yes, I understand that a regular Blu-ray player can play a movie even from a slightly damaged discs and a rip requires a complete correct reading, but when the issue is already at the mounting point where our drives can't even recognize the disc, then I'd love to hear if those very same discs can be mounted/recognized by an "official" drive without issues, without any cleaning and in multiple attempts (to exclude the possibility that it worked the same "one time" which can also happen with a friendly drive.

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Re: Back to the Future won't read on my ASUS drive

Post by SamuriHL » Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:40 pm

The answer is no. Go look at our game of thrones thread. You'll see how big this problem really is. I have 3 drives on ns60 firmware, 2 of which are actual ns60 drives. I've locked them to 2x using speed control which is how I finally got bttf ripped. Disc 1 took me 5 tries. GoT I've been at for days now and only have 3 seasons ripped successfully. With 3 drives. S4D1 won't rip in any of my drives. And my usb connected drive stopped reading uhd completely. And that was the drive I had the most success with. I've ordered a bu40n to see how that goes and it's currently the drive recommended most by drive sellers. But we'll see how that goes. I'm not super hopeful.

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Re: Back to the Future won't read on my ASUS drive

Post by Trickyd-1 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:42 pm

SamuriHL wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:40 pm
The answer is no. Go look at our game of thrones thread. You'll see how big this problem really is. I have 3 drives on ns60 firmware, 2 of which are actual ns60 drives. I've locked them to 2x using speed control which is how I finally got bttf ripped. Disc 1 took me 5 tries. GoT I've been at for days now and only have 3 seasons ripped successfully. With 3 drives. S4D1 won't rip in any of my drives. And my usb connected drive stopped reading uhd completely. And that was the drive I had the most success with. I've ordered a bu40n to see how that goes and it's currently the drive recommended most by drive sellers. But we'll see how that goes. I'm not super hopeful.

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Have you tried temporarily downgrading the firmware on your none genuine NS60 drive to say BH16NS55 1.02 none MK firmware? I’ve had success with some discs this way and other discs on the NS60 firmware.

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Re: Back to the Future won't read on my ASUS drive

Post by SamuriHL » Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:12 am

I haven't had a lot of luck changing firmware and getting the drive to read any different than the firmware that was on it.

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