UHD drives

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andcbii
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Re: UHD drives

Post by andcbii » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:41 am

I got this working with one of the ASUS drives... I'm a bit confused about the .cfg file. I first tried the file in this post:

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php? ... ost1293367

That doesn't look correct since the post was last updated in 2010.

I as able to get the keys from this post to work:

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php? ... ost1826296

but the list is kinda small. Is that the full list?

preserve
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Re: UHD drives

Post by preserve » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:13 am

onewhorips wrote:Can't read AACS VID from disc - most likely current AACS host certificate is revoked by your drive
Saved AACS dump file as C:\Users\Matthew\.MakeMKV/MKB20_v60_The_Revenant.tgz
The volume key is unknown for this disc - video can't be decrypted
These three lines I've quoted above are the three key lines in your debug log.
1) Your drive may not be suitable.
2) The volume key is unknown. Even if that movie is listed in the keys, your disc may require a different volume key than the volume keys that are already known. You should submit the AACS dump that was created to svq@makemkv.com
3) Your KEYDB.cfg doesn't seem to have the "header" at the top of file like the original KEYDB.cfg file does. I don't know if you pasted your enter file in the pastebin or not. I don't know whether that header is a requirement to recognizing the file - it doesn't seem like it should be - but that'd be one last thing to try if your file didn't include it.
andcbii wrote:I got this working with one of the ASUS drives... I'm a bit confused about the .cfg file. I first tried the file in this post:
Start with the more recent, latest file in this post: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php? ... ost1823531
andcbii wrote:but the list is kinda small. Is that the full list?
Yes - that post, the post before it, and the post after it - that's the full list of publicly posted known keys at this time. Bookmark that thread and keep an eye for any more key dumps, and if you run across a title that isn't supported yet, get the dump from MakeMKV and send it to svq@makemkv.com so that Mike can continue developing UHD support from his end.
Using: ASUS BW-16D1HT 3.00 || UHD FAQ - If you're new to UHD, read it!

PauleFoul
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Re: UHD drives

Post by PauleFoul » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:20 pm

I got my ASUS BW-16D1HT today and it read the UHD Disks :)

But i cannot copy the Disks. I got this messages :(

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Der Volumenschlüssel für die DVD/Blu-ray ist unbekannt - das Video kann nicht entschlüsselt werden
Backup fehlgeschlagen
KEYDB.cfg from here https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php? ... ost1823531 pasted in MakeMKV Path

Any Idea what is the Problem now?

PauleFoul
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Re: UHD drives

Post by PauleFoul » Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:04 pm

Here my Drive Infomation:

Laufwerksinformation
OS-Gerätename: \Device\CdRom1
Aktuelles Profil: BD-ROM
Produzent: ASUS
Produkt: BW-16D1HT
Revision: 3.01
Serienummer: SIK94H4PE454
Firmware-Datum: 2117-03-31 14:26:
Markierungen der Bus-Verschlüsselung: 1F
Highest AACS version: 63

Drive read UHD but don´t decrypt that. Firmware and Revision ok?

preserve
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Re: UHD drives

Post by preserve » Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:06 pm

PauleFoul wrote:Firmware and Revision ok?
Some users have success with this drive, but some don't.

However, right now it's hard to know what factors are affecting the problem when discs can't be ripped, such as possible bad discs, or possible wrong volume keys, etc.

Another user made a thread just for this specific drive, asking people who have it to post their firmware information. Have a look at that thread here: http://makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=16885
Using: ASUS BW-16D1HT 3.00 || UHD FAQ - If you're new to UHD, read it!

topprospect
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Re: UHD drives

Post by topprospect » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:52 pm

mike admin wrote:TLDR: Buy internal or external ASUS BW-16* drive and do not update its firmware.
Warning: ASUS BW-16D1X-U (external USB3 model) does not read UHD discs AT ALL. In fact, when I opened up the enclosure, I found that the drive is actually a Pioneer BDR-209MBK. So don't buy just any BW-16* drive, make sure the specific model number is on mike's list in the OP.

However, if you remove that Pioneer drive from the ASUS BE-16D1X-U sled and replace it with an ASUS BW-16D1HT, ripping UHD discs over USB3 works great. I'm using MakeMKV 1.10.8 and BW-16D1HT firmware 3.01. Works in Mac and PC.

ekpen49
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Re: UHD drives

Post by ekpen49 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:10 pm

tyeeman wrote:
Woodstock wrote: With the ASUS drives, the USB version doesn't do BDXL, but the internal ones do.
Does that mean I can take the internal version (ASUS BW-16D1HT drive) and put it in an external enclosure and have it work? Maybe or maybe not most likely.
Yes. I have LG WH16NS40, 55, and the 60 on external drives.
If you have esata port on your computer, get the Addonics www.addonics.com search for SESCS .It is only $62.00.
I am using 2 esata enclosures on mine.
USB 3.0 enclosures do work well. get the Nexstar DX on Amazon. It is not expensive.

I may have to return my LG WH16NS60 to Fry. It does not seem to work with UHDs I get error that seems to revoke the certificate, similar to the error message using the Pioneer uhd optical drive.

George

PauleFoul
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Re: UHD drives

Post by PauleFoul » Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:24 pm

So, testing many things last days. Here my report:

Laufwerksinformation
OS-Gerätename: E:
Produzent: ASUS
Produkt: BW-16D1HT
Revision: 3.00
Firmware-Datum: 2115-11-03 11:10:
Markierungen der Bus-Verschlüsselung: 1F
Highest AACS version: 63

- - Possible to read UHD-Disks, decrypting works if right key in keydb.cfg


Laufwerksinformation
OS-Gerätename: F:
Produzent: ASUS
Produkt: BW-16D1HT
Revision: 3.01
Firmware-Datum: 2117-03-31 14:26:
Markierungen der Bus-Verschlüsselung: 1F
Highest AACS version: 63

- - Possible to read UHD-Disks, decrypting works if right key in keydb.cfg


Laufwerksinformation
OS-Gerätename: G:
Aktuelles Profil: BD-R SRM
Produzent: ELBY
Produkt: CLONEDRIVE
Revision: 1.4
Highest AACS version: 63


- - Possible to read UHD-ISO_File, decrypting works if right key in keydb.cfg


So i can say, ASUS BW-16D1HT works in Revision 3.00 and 3.01 if right key is there...
Make ISO-File and decrypt later, also works...

mike admin
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Re: UHD drives

Post by mike admin » Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:05 pm

preserve wrote:I believe pretty much all UHDs use BDs instead of BDXL.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I believe discs with 50 GB capacity are in the spec, but no studios are using them.
Latest MakeMKV correctly shows number of layers for an UHD disc on a main page, and there are few discs that have 3 layers.

preserve
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Re: UHD drives

Post by preserve » Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:58 pm

mike admin wrote:Latest MakeMKV correctly shows number of layers for an UHD disc on a main page, and there are few discs that have 3 layers.
I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that post you've quoted. I think I meant the opposite - I've corrected it. I can confirm that MakeMKV displays this info correctly. For example, both Dark Knight and Dark Knight Rises correctly show as 3 layers (the disc themselves have 3 rings, which is the way to physically check), although there is something odd about both of them.

Note the info given for data capacity. It appears to be MORE than what's actually on the disc, as seen with a "dir /s" from the command line, with the feature taking up 99% of the reported space:

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Disc Information
Label: THE_DARK_KNIGHT
Timestamp: 2017-11-15 15:39:25
Data capacity: 81.23 Gb
Disc type: BD-ROM UHD
Number of layers: 3

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Total Files Listed: 183 File(s) 64,525,435,475 bytes

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11/15/2017  01:02 PM    63,953,528,832 00030.m2ts
And... here is the same info for Dark Knight Rises, again notice the discrepancy between reported data capacity and what I believe to be the actual data on disc, but this time the reported amount is LESS:

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Disc Information
Label: DARK_KNIGHT_RISES
Timestamp: 2017-11-16 14:25:31
Data capacity: 87.67 Gb
Disc type: BD-ROM UHD
Number of layers: 3

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Total Files Listed: 258 File(s) 94,095,044,764 bytes

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11/08/2017  08:13 PM    93,495,103,488 00030.m2ts
Using: ASUS BW-16D1HT 3.00 || UHD FAQ - If you're new to UHD, read it!

smartieyoung
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Re: UHD drives

Post by smartieyoung » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:26 pm

has anyone had success with LG BENU40? I'VE gotten this one to read uhd disks i'm just not sure if it will allow =me to make a full encrypted back up for which i could unlock later .i have tried most come back at me with this file is corrupt or file fails hash check.any advice :?:
mod please feel free to delete this if i have asked this before :!: happy new year everyone cant wait to see what the new year brings :D

sharpie00
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Re: UHD drives

Post by sharpie00 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:18 pm

I bought the LG BE16NU50 from amazon and confirms it works. This is an external USB 3.0 drive with a white enclosure and a silver faceplate that says M-DISC on the bottom bezel of the faceplate.

TeddyRaspin
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Re: UHD drives

Post by TeddyRaspin » Thu Dec 28, 2017 1:45 pm

Hi.

For those having the Asus BW-16D1HT 3.01 firmware. Could it be possible please, to have a dump of this firmware ?

To obtain it Devilscraw flasher is needed, which can be found here :

https://github.com/devilsclaw/flasher/releases

Then, open an elevated command prompt and type :

flasher -D (to display drive and drive ID)

and then

flasher -d [drive id] -l firmware.bin 6 00000000 00200000

and it should dump the current (3.0.1) firmware of your device.

Thanks in advance. :)

starmax
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Re: UHD drives

Post by starmax » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:04 am

Am getting this error about 1/2 way through, even when I just do a backup w/o decryption:

Backing up disc into folder "S:/UHD Rips/backup/DEADPOOL"
Loaded content hash table, will verify integrity of M2TS files.
Error 'Scsi error - HARDWARE ERROR:TIMEOUT ON LOGICAL UNIT' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00063.m2ts' at offset '21281832960'
DEBUG: Code 0 at qOI*=wx5:j{WPf8Pod3:213134354
DEBUG: Code 0 at qOI*=wx5:j{WPf8Pod3:29397564
DEBUG: Code 0 at <0W<vOVSs.X)9gR.Buo#:213133319
Backup failed

Get the same error in both Windows 10 and MacOS (same drive).

I also tried DVDFab, and got a read error about 1/2 way though the rip. Thinking it might have something to do with switching from the first layer to the second layer, but that's just a guess.


Drive Information
OS device name: \Device\CdRom1
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: ASUS
Product: BW-16D1HT
Revision: 3.01
Serial number: SIK9CH5PB072
Firmware date: 2117-03-31 14:26:
Bus encryption flags: 1F
Highest AACS version: 60

Disc Information
Label: DEADPOOL
Timestamp: 2016-04-05 14:48:45
Data capacity: 54.54 Gb
Disc type: BD-ROM UHD
Number of layers: 2
Bus encryption flags: 80

starmax
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Re: UHD drives

Post by starmax » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:47 pm

Also tried it with my Ultra HD "official" drive, just to see if I could do an encrypted backup, got a similar but different error:

Error 'Scsi error - HARDWARE ERROR:LOGICAL UNIT HAS NOT SELF-CONFIGURED YET' occurred while reading '/BDMV/STREAM/00063.m2ts' at offset '21286090752'
DEBUG: Code 0 at qOI*=wx5:j{WPf8Pod3:213134354
DEBUG: Code 0 at qOI*=wx5:j{WPf8Pod3:29397564
DEBUG: Code 0 at <0W<vOVSs.X)9gR.Buo#:213133319
Backup failed

Drive Information
OS device name: \Device\CdRom1
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BD-RE WH16NS60
Revision: 1.00
Serial number: SIK9RH8IB310
Firmware date: 2117-04-25 17:56:
Bus encryption flags: 17
Highest AACS version: 60


So, not sure what to try next. I don't have any other UHD discs...

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