Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2019

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Billycar11
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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2019

Post by Billycar11 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:57 pm

MartyMcNuts wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:38 pm

you will now have a very hard time recovering the drive!
and these drive are strange some need the new dos flash others don't even when they were on 1.03 i don't understand it i have recovered quite a few already. i think some firmware unblocks dosflash when the user starts flashing all sorts of firmware to try and make it take bu40n slim firmware. i dont know what firmware it is though

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2019

Post by MartyMcNuts » Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:59 pm

Billycar11 wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:57 pm
MartyMcNuts wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:38 pm

you will now have a very hard time recovering the drive!
and these drive are strange some need the new dos flash others don't even when they were on 1.03 i don't understand it i have recovered quite a few already. i think some firmware unblocks dosflash when the user starts flashing all sorts of firmware to try and make it take bu40n slim firmware. i dont know what firmware it is though
Interesting......
Cheers :D
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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2019

Post by kherg » Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:29 am

thx for your answers.
I tried to flash to BU40N 1.03-MK but didnt work. I always got "failure #5".
I tried all the FWs from your list. the only one that worked was the asus fw.
thats why i tried this way. unfortunately i fail!

I am not sure that I will manage recovery with dos flash. I would prefer to send the drive to you billy.
can you give me contact details?

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2019

Post by mike admin » Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:22 pm

Billycar11 wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:57 pm
and these drive are strange some need the new dos flash others don't even when they were on 1.03 i don't understand it i have recovered quite a few already.
Because the dosflash interface is implemented in bootlader, and not in main firmware. Forget the firmware version, what you need to look at is a bootloader version (at 0x3000 - "MT1959 Boot JB8" and such). To complicate things, many different versions are using the same boot loader version string. Two things are for certain:
- if you flash only the main image (without boot), then you keep whatever bootloader version you have (with or without dosflash interface).
- firmware would always refuse to flash a bootloader which version string is identical to currently flashed one, no matter if bootloaders are actually different or not. to update you either have to go up or down.

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2019

Post by mike admin » Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:26 pm

fitbrit wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:42 am
What I'm really looking for is the ability to play a UHD disk in JRiver Media Center without having to rip it first. Sadly, MakeMKV's ability to decrypt the video stream for playback by another application has been abandoned.
What makes you say that? Steaming was abandoned, yes, but the more powerful interface, specifically libmmbd, was put in place. You can play the disc directly with kodi/vlc or anything that uses libbluray library.

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2019

Post by Billycar11 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:34 pm

kherg wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:29 am
thx for your answers.
I tried to flash to BU40N 1.03-MK but didnt work. I always got "failure #5".
I tried all the FWs from your list. the only one that worked was the asus fw.
thats why i tried this way. unfortunately i fail!

I am not sure that I will manage recovery with dos flash. I would prefer to send the drive to you billy.
can you give me contact details?
https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 20&t=17831

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2019

Post by SamuriHL » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:08 am

mike admin wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:26 pm
fitbrit wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:42 am
What I'm really looking for is the ability to play a UHD disk in JRiver Media Center without having to rip it first. Sadly, MakeMKV's ability to decrypt the video stream for playback by another application has been abandoned.
What makes you say that? Steaming was abandoned, yes, but the more powerful interface, specifically libmmbd, was put in place. You can play the disc directly with kodi/vlc or anything that uses libbluray library.
That could be interesting to try with JRiver MC one of these days. It should work given that it uses libbluray.

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2019

Post by Jethro » Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:29 pm

Thanks Billycar11 for the list, there are 2 Vantec deals today. :)

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Vantec+CB-ST ... nb_sb_noss

I just picked up the "Non-Flashable" Vantec CB-ST00U3 Adapter.
The Slim NST-510S3-BK "Flashable" is also marked down.

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2019

Post by nasuel » Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:16 pm

Hi @all,

i have an Buffalo BRXL-16U3 enclosure with a BD-RE BH16NS48 drive. As i understood all correct the drive is not compatible for LibreDrive patching.
Is it possible to open the enclosure and install a new preflashed LibrDrive into the enclosure?

Thanks a lot
Regards
Manuel

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2019

Post by TXTechie » Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:14 pm

What UHD drive is the best to buy now as of today Dec 30 2019 because of the Newer OEM Firmwares. "any recommendation".
this forum has good info up to OCT i found on what to buy then.
These are available on Amazon still.
LG WH16NS60, UHD Official Internal 5.25
ASUS BW-16D1HT, UHD Friendly Internal 5.25, This one i read is popular with FW 3.2 ... but now maybe shipped with new oem FW of 3.10+ non downgrade able. or is there a fix now.
Archgon MD-8107S-U3-UHD, UHD Official, External Slim 9.5mm USB 3.0-Marty.

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2019

Post by jonghotti » Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:11 pm

The ULTIMATE drives are the one purchased from Marty, Billy and I.
I sell UHD Friendly drives in the USA and anywhere else in the world they're used!
https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 20&t=17829

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2019

Post by Mike6 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:10 pm

jonghotti wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:11 pm
The ULTIMATE drives are the one purchased from Marty, Billy and I.
What are the next to ULTIMATE drives, and are there known or suspected issues with new drives sold on Amazon et al?

I am looking at some kind of balance between, easy, and inexpensive, including new vs used. Used on ebay looks about like half of new on Amazon.

Flashing can't be considered "easy", but its kind of "part of the adventure", so kind of a push unless it doesn't work and turns into a total pain, but I'm not too worried.

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2019

Post by Billycar11 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:03 pm

Mike6 wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:10 pm
What are the next to ULTIMATE drives, and are there known or suspected issues with new drives sold on Amazon et al?

I am looking at some kind of balance between, easy, and inexpensive, including new vs used. Used on ebay looks about like half of new on Amazon.

Flashing can't be considered "easy", but its kind of "part of the adventure", so kind of a push unless it doesn't work and turns into a total pain, but I'm not too worried.
Do not buy a used drive. Get a new WH14NS40 from Amazon or me it's the best value

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2019

Post by Meohmy » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:48 pm

@Billycar11
Are you in the U.K? I would be interested in getting a drive off you. I can pay via PayPal

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2019

Post by meisterlampe » Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:40 pm

Hi everybody,

I have bought an LG BH16NS40 (should be the same like WH16NS40).
Information about the drive:
- Manufactured: August 2019
- SVC Code: NS51
- Rom Ver.: 1.04
- Drive Platform MT1959, PCB Version: JB8 2015.05.08 (I opened the drive an had a look on the Chip)

So it´s NS51 and not NS50. Is it possible to flash the drive to an UHD-friendly firmware anyway? Perhaps I don´t understand the first Post correct, because it says SVC:NS50+. So it could be that the information is already given. So sorry for my unnecessary question perhaps?

Thanks meisterlampe

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