Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2020

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Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2020

Post by jonghotti » Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:59 am

My current stats: I’ve found the failure rate of the LG WH16NS60 to be 1.5 - 2.0% based on my sales in 2020 so far. 0.5 - 1.0% on the ASUS this year and 1 bad BU40N out of the last 300 sold.


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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2020

Post by BBQ-Thunder » Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:16 pm

Billycar11 wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:16 pm
hansolo wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:56 pm
BU40N > BU40N 1.03MK

What is the best FW for LG BU40N slim drive? Is it still 1.03MK, the latest MK or original FW 1.00? Some people seem to suggest 1.00.
If you have 1.00 leave it but I recommend 1.03 for most people because it is a simple 1 step flash and done less risk of bricking the drive 1.00 vs 1.03 in makemkv there is no difference the only advantage of 1.00 is comparability with other rippers
I am still a little new here so perhaps I am missing something. But it seems the latest image for the BU40N is the MK folder is 1.04, specifically "HL-DT-ST-BD-RE_BU40N-1.04-NM00500-212005061142". I am not finding a 1.03 image, is this correct?

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2020

Post by Billycar11 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:34 am

BBQ-Thunder wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:16 pm
Billycar11 wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:16 pm
hansolo wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:56 pm
BU40N > BU40N 1.03MK

What is the best FW for LG BU40N slim drive? Is it still 1.03MK, the latest MK or original FW 1.00? Some people seem to suggest 1.00.
If you have 1.00 leave it but I recommend 1.03 for most people because it is a simple 1 step flash and done less risk of bricking the drive 1.00 vs 1.03 in makemkv there is no difference the only advantage of 1.00 is comparability with other rippers
I am still a little new here so perhaps I am missing something. But it seems the latest image for the BU40N is the MK folder is 1.04, specifically "HL-DT-ST-BD-RE_BU40N-1.04-NM00500-212005061142". I am not finding a 1.03 image, is this correct?
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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2020

Post by ctishman » Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:43 pm

Hey folks,

I've got a WH16NS40 running original/unpatched 1.02, and am considering reflashing it to WH16NS60 1.02MK per page 1 of this guide. However, I'm caught up on the third "IMPORTANT Before you flash" step:

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3. SVC NS50+ LG only
I can't figure out what this means. Can someone explain it?

Thanks!

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2020

Post by st4evr » Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:52 pm

ctishman wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:43 pm
Hey folks,

I've got a WH16NS40 running original/unpatched 1.02, and am considering reflashing it to WH16NS60 1.02MK per page 1 of this guide. However, I'm caught up on the third "IMPORTANT Before you flash" step:

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3. SVC NS50+ LG only
I can't figure out what this means. Can someone explain it?

Thanks!
Google and forum search function are your friends. There are hundreds of existing discussions detailing/explaining that requirement. See the links below for some examples:

https://www.makemkv.com/forum/search.ph ... Ns50+label

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C9BK ... s-wiz-serp

In short, look for it in the physical drive label.

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2020

Post by ctishman » Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:06 pm

Thank you very much! I'll take a look.

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2020

Post by d00zah » Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:09 pm

ctishman wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:43 pm
Hey folks,

I've got a WH16NS40 running original/unpatched 1.02, and am considering reflashing it to WH16NS60 1.02MK per page 1 of this guide. However, I'm caught up on the third "IMPORTANT Before you flash" step:

Code: Select all

3. SVC NS50+ LG only
I can't figure out what this means. Can someone explain it?

Thanks!
https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 110#p95891

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2020

Post by Pliny_The_Elder » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:04 pm

I would like to let everyone know that the Inateck USB 3.0 to SATA adaptor (model UA1001) works for flashing firmware (confirmed by flashing 3.10MK to my Asus 16D1HT). Have had it peak at around 12 speed max for reads so far.

I managed to get it for £14 on a lightning deal, but usually £18 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07HPYY1PP

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2020

Post by Coopervid » Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:15 pm

Billy,

if I now understand the statement right on page 1:

Newer encrypted firmwares must be flashed with the appropriate firmware using the same firmware revision level flashing with the enc box checked.

What I didn't understand - but it seems so (please confirm!) - latest versions before encryption was implemented MUST be flashed FIRST with either ASUS BW-16D1HT 3.10MK or LG WH16NS60 1.02MK before any other drive specific other firmware can be flashed. If so - please update your guide to make this a MANDATORY for flashing.

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2020

Post by MartyMcNuts » Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:18 pm

Coopervid wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:15 pm
Billy,

if I now understand the statement right on page 1:

Newer encrypted firmwares must be flashed with the appropriate firmware using the same firmware revision level flashing with the enc box checked.

What I didn't understand - but it seems so (please confirm!) - latest versions before encryption was implemented MUST be flashed FIRST with either ASUS BW-16D1HT 3.10MK or LG WH16NS60 1.02MK before any other drive specific other firmware can be flashed. If so - please update your guide to make this a MANDATORY for flashing.
The second bit is not true. You can do what Billy suggests or you can do exactly the same as with the encrypted firmwares but without the "enc".

So, if you have a new WH14NS40 with 1.04 firmware, you can flash WH14NS40 1.04-MK, then any other firmware you want. A new WH16NS40 with 1.04 can be flashed with WH16NS40 1.04-MK, a new BH16NS55 with 1.04 can be flashed with BH16NS55 1.04-MK firmware etc..

I always recommend people to flash the MK equivalent of their current firmware, then flash whatever they want to use. It saves a lot of confusion this way.
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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2020

Post by Billycar11 » Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:21 am

Coopervid wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:15 pm
Billy,

if I now understand the statement right on page 1:

Newer encrypted firmwares must be flashed with the appropriate firmware using the same firmware revision level flashing with the enc box checked.
Not exactly but they need the newer downgrade enable checks disabled so that's WH16NS60 1.02 WH16/14NS40 1.04 and asus 3.10. all those mk firmwares have the additional downgrade checks disabled. That guy we were trying to help was trying to flash WH16NS40 1.03mk and that's never going to work
Coopervid wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:15 pm
What I didn't understand - but it seems so (please confirm!) - latest versions before encryption was implemented MUST be flashed FIRST with either ASUS BW-16D1HT 3.10MK or LG WH16NS60 1.02MK before any other drive specific other firmware can be flashed. If so - please update your guide to make this a MANDATORY for flashing.
Again not exactly but it make it easy to flash to WH16NS60 1.02mk or Asus 3.10mk as it will work for every downgrade type or even an upgrade flash. sure it won't work for anydvd but most people use makemkv who read this guide. And it is only 1 flash less chance for something to go wrong.
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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2020

Post by Coopervid » Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:52 am

Thanks for your answers Marty and Billy!

Well - I don't think that it comes across that way in the guide on page 1. Therefore also my misinterpretation. If possible, the guide should clarify this, e.g. with your examples mentioned.

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2020

Post by Hannssoni » Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:17 pm

Can I use my device to rip Uhd Bluray's: Buffalo BRXL-PT6U2VB EU

Drive Information
OS device name: \Device\CdRom1
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: BUFFALO
Product: Optical Drive
Revision: 1.00
Serial number: ********
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 65

!!!! Doesn't show LibreDrive Information at all !!!

Do I need to Flash this or is it impossible with my current device?

Billycar11
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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2020

Post by Billycar11 » Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:25 pm

Hannssoni wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:17 pm
Can I use my device to rip Uhd Bluray's: Buffalo BRXL-PT6U2VB EU

Drive Information
OS device name: \Device\CdRom1
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: BUFFALO
Product: Optical Drive
Revision: 1.00
Serial number: ********
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 65

!!!! Doesn't show LibreDrive Information at all !!!

Do I need to Flash this or is it impossible with my current device?
Impossible the eu version of that drive is not a BU40N

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Re: Ultimate UHD Drives Guide Updated 2020

Post by Hannssoni » Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:51 pm

Billycar11 wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:25 pm
Hannssoni wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:17 pm
Can I use my device to rip Uhd Bluray's: Buffalo BRXL-PT6U2VB EU

Drive Information
OS device name: \Device\CdRom1
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: BUFFALO
Product: Optical Drive
Revision: 1.00
Serial number: ********
Bus encryption flags: 1B
Highest AACS version: 65

!!!! Doesn't show LibreDrive Information at all !!!

Do I need to Flash this or is it impossible with my current device?
Impossible the eu version of that drive is not a BU40N
Too bad :( Thanks for the fast reply 8)

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