Libredrive version v6

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Baettel
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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by Baettel » Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:53 pm

Any chance this will work with a old BD/HDDVD drive?

Drive Information
OS device name: G:
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BD-RE GGW-H20L
Revision: YL07
Serial number: K5491E01557
Firmware date: 2011-03-19 12:34:56
Highest AACS version: 36

I can't test it right now as the serial and the version aren't lined up for the beta but I thought I would ask as it isn't mentioned anywhere in the intro post.

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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by Woodstock » Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:02 pm

Somewhere between slim and none, since the drive is nearly 5 years older than the oldest drives that are LD-compatible.
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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by jayper » Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:09 pm

nkley wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:59 am
I'm trying to rip the 4K UHD version of Parasite from the disc, but when I open up MakeMKV 1.15.1, it says it cannot open the disc. Is LibreDrive the solution?
No, the volume key is likely not known for your version of the disc.

viewforum.php?f=12

There are threads for USA & Canada versions of the disc. There doesn't seem to be support for either at the moment.

rerunsorted
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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by rerunsorted » Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:29 am

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Drive Information
OS device name: E:
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BDDVDRW UH12NS30
Revision: 1.02
Serial number: K9LE9OD4329
Firmware date: 2114-03-26 11:41
Bus encryption flags: 16
Highest AACS version: 68
Using v6 causes my OS to drop the drive when attempting to decrypt the disc causing MakeMKV to also crash.

I get the 'OS error - This device does not exist' error until MakeMKV crashes. I then have to power off the PC before the drive is recognized again.

My drive was originally Revision 1.03. I tried flashing down to 1.02 to see if that would resolve the issue but it didn't.

I've tried 3 discs, all Blu-ray. They were Onward, Frozen 2 and Jumanji 2. All had the same behavior after tried to decrypt and all discs were able to be ripped when not using LibreDrive v6.

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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by jatr12 » Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:22 am

I just gave this a shot today and the first thing I tried to rip was a really old DVD (Stargate SG1 Season 1 Disc 5). It failed to open the disc entirely, reporting a SCSI error, and then the drive locked up and I was unable to eject the disc. I removed the V6 bin from the data tar file and rebooted the machine/recycled power and things were back to normal.

I realize this is an edge case since most people are far more concerned with blu-ray discs than DVD (as I usually am too!) but thought I'd mention it.

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OS device name: /dev/sr0
Current profile: DVD-ROM
Manufacturer: ASUS
Product: BW-16D1HT
Revision: 3.02
Firmware date: 2117-11-24 14:13
Bus encryption flags: 1F
Highest AACS version: 70

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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by cyberdman » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:33 pm

I've been using MakeMKV a long time with a very old Blu-Ray drive, an ASUS brand BW-12B1ST a with 1.0 firmware that never got any firmware updates since I've had it. I figured the drive was so old it would never be supported. Just this morning while poking around I saw there was a LibreDrive v6 update from May which actually supports my ancient drive so grabbed the bin file and put it in my data folder, restarted and ta-da!

Blu-Ray.JPG
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So then just for thrills I tried it out and the closest Blu-Ray I had handy, Annabelle Comes Home. Just about every Blu-ray I rip with this drive takes about 30min or so before the LibreDrive update. I had already ripped this Blu-ray a long time ago and it probably took about as long. After doing the LibreDrive update re-ripping this Blu-ray took nearly 1 hour and 16 minutes. Was there something else I should have done? Or is something else going wrong? The file it created looks great and has no issues, just that it took 2.5 times as long to make. Any ideas?

My log file reads as follows:

Debug log started at Sat Jun 13 14:38:18 2020 , written by MakeMKV v1.15.1 win(x64-release)
Using 262272KB for read cache.
001005:0000 MakeMKV v1.15.1 win(x64-release) started
001004:0000 Debug logging enabled, log will be saved as C:\Users\***/MakeMKV_log.txt
SDF v070: ASUS_BW-12B1ST___a_1.00_211304231147_K9ME63D4729
003007:0000 Using direct disc access mode
SDF v070: ASUS_BW-12B1ST___a_1.00_211304231147_K9ME63D4729
001011:0000 Using LibreDrive mode (v06 id=B540B206A99E)
SDFW: LibreDrive: RipLock speed limit removed for currently inserted disc (old_speed=08 new_speed=14)
005085:0000 Loaded content hash table, will verify integrity of M2TS files.
DEBUG: Code 2147483648 at yv"y}$N<9>6(HCzT:213132974
001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 0 at 514U4Qpim*J{}UjC?:29397219
001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 0 at 514U4Qpim*J{}UjC?:29397219
001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 0 at 514U4Qpim*J{}UjC?:29397219
001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 0 at 514U4Qpim*J{}UjC?:29397219
001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 0 at 514U4Qpim*J{}UjC?:29397219
001003:0020 DEBUG: Code 0 at yv"y}$N<9>6(HCzT:29396920
DISCID=41970019ABABC338B971E822A237FFD83482AB95
...
etc.

Thanks,

MrVanx
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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by MrVanx » Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:27 pm

rerunsorted wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:29 am

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Drive Information
OS device name: E:
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BDDVDRW UH12NS30
Revision: 1.02
Serial number: K9LE9OD4329
Firmware date: 2114-03-26 11:41
Bus encryption flags: 16
Highest AACS version: 68
Using v6 causes my OS to drop the drive when attempting to decrypt the disc causing MakeMKV to also crash.

I get the 'OS error - This device does not exist' error until MakeMKV crashes. I then have to power off the PC before the drive is recognized again.

My drive was originally Revision 1.03. I tried flashing down to 1.02 to see if that would resolve the issue but it didn't.

I've tried 3 discs, all Blu-ray. They were Onward, Frozen 2 and Jumanji 2. All had the same behavior after tried to decrypt and all discs were able to be ripped when not using LibreDrive v6.
Yep I get a similar result with my UH12NS30 also:

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OS device name: /dev/sr0
Current profile: BD-ROM
Manufacturer: HL-DT-ST
Product: BDDVDRW UH12NS30
Revision: 1.03
Serial number: K9MEA8F2118
Firmware date: 2114-04-24 19:00
Bus encryption flags: 16
Highest AACS version: 71
I left makemkv whirring away for a bit (attempting to open a BD disc) and it eventually gave me an error (fatal error?).
anyways I have reverted back so I can rip a disc but please see attached my log file which might be of some help?

FYI the disc I was attempting to open in the log worked just fine after reverting back to 1.15.1 (linux), libredrive status returned to "Status: Possible, not yet enabled".

Cheers.
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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by midnighwatcher » Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:22 am

Is it possible that the increased speeds could potentially destroy discs? I had a Bluray disc just literally explode in my LG drive into a million pieces. It had trouble reading the disc and was constantly adjusting the spin speed and then eventually heard a loud POP inside the drive like a gun after about an hour.

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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by jonghotti » Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:32 am

midnighwatcher wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:22 am
Is it possible that the increased speeds could potentially destroy discs? I had a Bluray disc just literally explode in my LG drive into a million pieces. It had trouble reading the disc and was constantly adjusting the spin speed and then eventually heard a loud POP inside the drive like a gun after about an hour.
Was it spinning or was it grinding? Not sure it was the best idea to let it sit there for an hour having trouble with the disc. To answer your question though yes I believe that increased speeds could wreck all sorts of havoc including damaged discs and drives that fail prematurely. There's a reason I jokingly referred to this feature as "the warranty killer" :)
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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by Woodstock » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:40 pm

midnighwatcher wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:22 am
Is it possible that the increased speeds could potentially destroy discs? I had a Bluray disc just literally explode in my LG drive into a million pieces. It had trouble reading the disc and was constantly adjusting the spin speed and then eventually heard a loud POP inside the drive like a gun after about an hour.
Yes, it is possible to have a disk come apart because of existing defects, as you've experienced. There are even Youtube videos of CDs with cracks coming apart at full speed, dating back to the last century, when "40x" became a thing.

Disks with ANY sort of stress discoloration or visible nicks and cracks should NOT be spun at high speed.
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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by midnighwatcher » Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:39 pm

jonghotti wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:32 am
midnighwatcher wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:22 am
Is it possible that the increased speeds could potentially destroy discs? I had a Bluray disc just literally explode in my LG drive into a million pieces. It had trouble reading the disc and was constantly adjusting the spin speed and then eventually heard a loud POP inside the drive like a gun after about an hour.
Was it spinning or was it grinding? Not sure it was the best idea to let it sit there for an hour having trouble with the disc. To answer your question though yes I believe that increased speeds could wreck all sorts of havoc including damaged discs and drives that fail prematurely. There's a reason I jokingly referred to this feature as "the warranty killer" :)
It was spinning, no grinding. I left it in because it was still ripping the movie, albeit very slowly. I've never had a disc disintegrate like that before in my life so had no worries.

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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by midnighwatcher » Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:42 pm

Woodstock wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:40 pm
midnighwatcher wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:22 am
Is it possible that the increased speeds could potentially destroy discs? I had a Bluray disc just literally explode in my LG drive into a million pieces. It had trouble reading the disc and was constantly adjusting the spin speed and then eventually heard a loud POP inside the drive like a gun after about an hour.
Yes, it is possible to have a disk come apart because of existing defects, as you've experienced. There are even Youtube videos of CDs with cracks coming apart at full speed, dating back to the last century, when "40x" became a thing.

Disks with ANY sort of stress discoloration or visible nicks and cracks should NOT be spun at high speed.
Yeah, I check each disc very carefully before ripping. There were some minor scratches but no cracks were visible.

It would be good if the next version of MakeMKV gives us the option to disable unrestricted speeds. 99.9% of the time there's no issue, but that 0 .1% chance of an optical grenade now has me paranoid. :o

Fortunately, I disassembled the drive, cleaned out the debris and seems like I was able to salvage it. Fingers crossed. I'll be removing the new bin file however to limit the rip speed.

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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by jonghotti » Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:54 pm

LOL "optical grenade"! I mean, it's not funny, but it's a clever name.
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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by Woodstock » Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:01 pm

You know, it's a bit strange that we have one group desiring the removal of the speed restrictions, and another needing to limit speeds for reasons like available USB power or fragile media.

My BD copy of Last Starfighter has a section of the hub missing, but it survived 3 rips.
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Re: Libredrive version v6

Post by SamuriHL » Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:03 am

I'm 100% in the FASTER FASTER FASTER! category, however, having CONTROL over the max speed by a drop down selection or some other mechanism would be helpful.

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