Confusion about Pioneer BDR-X13E-S vs. BDR-X13E-X

[fhw72]

Hi @ll,
I'm still confused about the Pioneer drives and the nomenclature - especially these two:

BDR-X13E-S
BDR-X13E-X

I understand that "E" means European market and "S"/"X" differentiates betweens internal external. ok.
But what else?

From the Specs on the Pioneer site they should be UHD-Compatible? So I can read UHD (how?)
but cannot use Libredrive?

Apart from that they look different... Copper vs. Silver stripe. Is it just the look or are there other technical differences known?

https://pioneer-blurayodd.eu/products/b ... /index.php
https://pioneer-blurayodd.eu/products/b ... /index.php

[Coopervid]

Hi @ll,
I'm still confused about the Pioneer drives and the nomenclature - especially these two:

BDR-X13E-S
BDR-X13E-X

I understand that "E" means European market and "S"/"X" differentiates betweens internal external. ok.
But what else?

From the Specs on the Pioneer site they should be UHD-Compatible? So I can read UHD (how?)
but cannot use Libredrive?

Apart from that they look different... Copper vs. Silver stripe. Is it just the look or are there other technical differences known?

https://pioneer-blurayodd.eu/products/b ... /index.php
https://pioneer-blurayodd.eu/products/b ... /index.php

Don't buy any of these two as they come with firmware that makes it impossible to read or rip UHDs. You should buy from a seller in your region who has these drives with old firmware. Since you linked a EU web site you should check with asmcom.

[Billycar11]

the x13e-s is usb

the s13e-x is sata you got the model number wrong there

the ex/ux/jx all same have higher build quality and more sound deadening and have it all blacked out it not really worth it for the price difference.

but both of those drive need fw from before 12/22 or they wont work with makemkv and UHD

there is no way of downgrading them you must buy from a seller if you want one with old fw

[fhw72]

Thanks. Will check for a drive from one of the sellers.

Will there ever be a possibility go flash a higher firmware version without degrading UHD capabilites?
In the past they usually fixed some burning quality issues with newer media...

[Billycar11]

Thanks. Will check for a drive from one of the sellers.

Will there ever be a possibility go flash a higher firmware version without degrading UHD capabilites?
In the past they usually fixed some burning quality issues with newer media...

if the developer releases MK fw yes but we dont know when or if that is going to happen.

the pioneer stuff will always ruin it now sadly

[DavoBR]

Highly recommend asmcom. Just explain your setup and what you are looking for.