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SickPup404
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Overboard

Post by SickPup404 »

(FYI - I ended up posting this in the BR forum as well since Google usually brings that post up first.)

Tested Overboard on two separate DVDs:
- There are six "copies" of the movie on the DVD.
- Titles 9 & 10 both fail to rip (with errors).
- Title 11 (1:52:18 running time) rips & plays without errors.
- Titles 12-14 all rip without errors, but all have audio sync issues throughout the movie.

Like I said, this was the same results on two versions of the DVD (from separate boxes). I think the rip errors and audio playback errors are all induced as protection.
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d00zah
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Re: Overboard

Post by d00zah »

- Title 11 (1:52:18 running time) rips & plays without errors.

is the correct title. Runtime matches IMDB details (& my copy, & the BD thread).

This is a Lionsgate release, notorious for multiple, incorrect titles (playlist obfuscation).
no5370
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Re: Overboard

Post by no5370 »

Newbie here.

Using MakeMKV v1.12.3 32bit, I cannot ever see Track 11 when I ask the program to analyze the "Overboard" (2018) DVD. MakeMKV therefore defaults to a track that is only 2 minutes (100.6MB) long. What am I doing wrong?

Here's my log output:

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MakeMKV v1.12.3 win(x86-release) started
Automatic checking for updates is enabled, you may disable it in preferences if you don't want MakeMKV to contact web server.
Using direct disc access mode
Calculated BUP offset for VTS #0 does not match one in IFO header.
Calculated BUP offset for VTS #1 does not match one in IFO header.
Title #26 has length of 116 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
Title #27 has length of 116 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
Title #28 was added (1 cell(s), 0:02:32)
Title #29 was added (1 cell(s), 0:02:32)
Title #38 has length of 14 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
Title #39 has length of 22 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
Title #40 has length of 7 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
Title #41 has length of 12 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
Title 2 in VTS 7 is equal to title 1 and was skipped
Operation successfully completed
Saving 1 titles into directory C:/Video/OVERBOARD
1 titles saved
Using direct disc access mode
Calculated BUP offset for VTS #0 does not match one in IFO header.
Calculated BUP offset for VTS #1 does not match one in IFO header.
Title #26 has length of 116 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
Title #27 has length of 116 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
Title #28 was added (1 cell(s), 0:02:32)
Title #29 was added (1 cell(s), 0:02:32)
Title #38 has length of 14 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
Title #39 has length of 22 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
Title #40 has length of 7 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
Title #41 has length of 12 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
Title 2 in VTS 7 is equal to title 1 and was skipped
Operation successfully completed
Using direct disc access mode
Calculated BUP offset for VTS #0 does not match one in IFO header.
Calculated BUP offset for VTS #1 does not match one in IFO header.
Title #26 has length of 116 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
Title #27 has length of 116 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
Title #28 was added (1 cell(s), 0:02:32)
Title #29 was added (1 cell(s), 0:02:32)
Title #38 has length of 14 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
Title #39 has length of 22 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
Title #40 has length of 7 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
Title #41 has length of 12 seconds which is less than minimum title length of 120 seconds and was therefore skipped
Title 2 in VTS 7 is equal to title 1 and was skipped
Operation successfully completed
d00zah
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Re: Overboard

Post by d00zah »

You can try opening the disc in 'manual mode' and see whether any of the listed titles report the correct runtime.

File > Open DVD files manually
ManualMode (Small).jpg
no5370
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Re: Overboard

Post by no5370 »

Thanks for the guidance d00zah!

That suggestion helped me to move forward. Please see my next question below...

NOTE: For anyone else that is new to MakeMKV (like me), you must first enable "Expert Mode" before the "Open DVD file manually" option will appear in the File menu of the UI. (It took me a few minutes to poke around and figure that out). View >> Preferences >> General >> Check mark "Expert mode" >> Apply >> Ok


After enabling that mode, I browsed the disc and opened the IFO under the VideoTS directory. I have pasted the output below. Although I read through and I am attempting to follow the syntax shown on the instructions page ( http://makemkv.com/manualdvd/ ), I am not able to get Track 11 or any track to admit to having a legitimate title. (I am simply entering the title number such as 11, 26, or 27 (no punctuation) and it gives me an error such as:

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Open DVD manually : "11"
CellWalk algorithm failed (structure protection is too tough?), trying CellTrim algorithm
Fake cells occupy 100% of the title - assuming fake title
Failed to open disc

Any further guidance would be appreciated...


Here's the title list according to "Open DVD file manually" mode:

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Disc Information
Label : 
Titles count : 64


Title information
1: 1/1 - 1 chapter(s) 0:00:00 1 cell(s)
2: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
3: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
4: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
5: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
6: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
7: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
8: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
9: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
10: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
11: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
12: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
13: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
14: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
15: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
16: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
17: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
18: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
19: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
20: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
21: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
22: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
23: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
24: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
25: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
26: 6/1 - 2 chapter(s) 0:01:56 2 cell(s)
27: 6/2 - 2 chapter(s) 0:01:56 2 cell(s)
28: 7/1 - 2 chapter(s) 0:02:32 2 cell(s)
29: 7/2 - 2 chapter(s) 0:02:32 2 cell(s)
30: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
31: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
32: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
33: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
34: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
35: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
36: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
37: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
38: 12/1 - 2 chapter(s) 0:00:14 2 cell(s)
39: 13/1 - 1 chapter(s) 0:00:22 1 cell(s)
40: 13/2 - 1 chapter(s) 0:00:07 1 cell(s)
41: 14/1 - 2 chapter(s) 0:00:12 2 cell(s)
42: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
43: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
44: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
45: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
46: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
47: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
48: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
49: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
50: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
51: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
52: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
53: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
54: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
55: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
56: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
57: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
58: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
59: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
60: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
61: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
62: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
63: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
64: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
d00zah
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Re: Overboard

Post by d00zah »

no5370 wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:21 pm
Thanks for the guidance d00zah!

That suggestion helped me to move forward. Please see my next question below...

NOTE: For anyone else that is new to MakeMKV (like me), you must first enable "Expert Mode" before the "Open DVD file manually" option will appear in the File menu of the UI. (It took me a few minutes to poke around and figure that out). View >> Preferences >> General >> Check mark "Expert mode" >> Apply >> Ok
Sorry 'bout that. It' been so long since I enabled EM, I forgot what things looked like without it.
no5370 wrote:
Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:21 pm
After enabling that mode, I browsed the disc and opened the IFO under the VideoTS directory. I have pasted the output below. Although I read through and I am attempting to follow the syntax shown on the instructions page ( http://makemkv.com/manualdvd/ ), I am not able to get Track 11 or any track to admit to having a legitimate title. (I am simply entering the title number such as 11, 26, or 27 (no punctuation) and it gives me an error such as:

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Open DVD manually : "11"
CellWalk algorithm failed (structure protection is too tough?), trying CellTrim algorithm
Fake cells occupy 100% of the title - assuming fake title
Failed to open disc

Any further guidance would be appreciated...


Here's the title list according to "Open DVD file manually" mode:

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Disc Information
Label : 
Titles count : 64


Title information
1: 1/1 - 1 chapter(s) 0:00:00 1 cell(s)
2: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
3: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
4: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
5: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
6: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
7: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
8: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
9: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
10: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
11: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
12: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
13: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
14: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
15: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
16: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
17: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
18: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
19: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
20: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
21: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
22: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
23: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
24: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
25: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
26: 6/1 - 2 chapter(s) 0:01:56 2 cell(s)
27: 6/2 - 2 chapter(s) 0:01:56 2 cell(s)
28: 7/1 - 2 chapter(s) 0:02:32 2 cell(s)
29: 7/2 - 2 chapter(s) 0:02:32 2 cell(s)
30: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
31: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
32: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
33: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
34: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
35: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
36: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
37: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
38: 12/1 - 2 chapter(s) 0:00:14 2 cell(s)
39: 13/1 - 1 chapter(s) 0:00:22 1 cell(s)
40: 13/2 - 1 chapter(s) 0:00:07 1 cell(s)
41: 14/1 - 2 chapter(s) 0:00:12 2 cell(s)
42: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
43: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
44: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
45: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
46: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
47: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
48: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
49: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
50: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
51: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
52: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
53: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
54: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
55: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
56: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
57: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
58: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
59: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
60: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
61: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
62: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
63: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
64: 19/1 - 50 chapter(s) 0:00:00 50 cell(s)
Depending on the disc (rental vs retail, region, etc.), things like the correct track can vary. This one is not the same disc.

That said, I've never seen a disc like this. Where did it come from? Have you tried a replacement?

Any thoughts, @Woodstock?
d00zah
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Re: Overboard

Post by d00zah »

Follow up questions...

- Does this play on this drive/PC? If not, any player?

- Are you able to successfully process other discs on this drive/PC? If not, have you tried a different drive/PC?
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