Despicable Me (Ich einfach unverbesserlich) - Which title / source file should I select?

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mgutt
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Despicable Me (Ich einfach unverbesserlich) - Which title / source file should I select?

Post by mgutt » Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:56 pm

I'm having the german blu-ray of despicable me and it returns three tracks with a length of 1:34:41 and one track with 1:36:10:
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Titelinformationen
Name: Despicable Me (English)
Name der Quelldatei: 00800.mpls
Länge: 1:34:41
Anzahl der Kapitel: 20
Size: 24.1 GB
Segmentanzahl: 36
Segmentkarte: 847,829,848,830,849,831,850,832,851,833,852,834,853,835,854,836,855,837,856,838,857,839,858,840,859,841,860,842,861,843,862,844,863,845,864,846
Name der Ausgabedatei: Despicable Mee01.mkv
Titelinformationen
Name: Despicable Me (English)
Name der Quelldatei: 00300.mpls
Länge: 1:36:10
Anzahl der Kapitel: 20
Size: 23.0 GB
Segmentanzahl: 36
Segmentkarte: 810,829,811,830,812,831,813,832,814,833,815,834,816,835,817,836,818,837,819,838,820,839,821,840,822,841,823,842,824,843,825,844,826,845,827,846
Name der Ausgabedatei: Despicable Mee02.mkv
Titelinformationen
Name: Despicable Me (English)
Name der Quelldatei: 00802.mpls
Länge: 1:34:41
Anzahl der Kapitel: 20
Size: 24.3 GB
Segmentanzahl: 39
Segmentkarte: 866,868,829,848,830,849,831,850,832,851,833,852,834,853,835,854,869,870,872,855,837,856,838,857,839,858,840,859,841,860,842,861,843,862,844,863,845,864,846
Name der Ausgabedatei: Despicable Mee03.mkv
Titelinformationen
Name: Despicable Me (English)
Name der Quelldatei: 00804.mpls
Länge: 1:34:41
Anzahl der Kapitel: 20
Size: 24.3 GB
Segmentanzahl: 39
Segmentkarte: 867,868,829,848,830,849,831,850,832,851,833,852,834,853,835,854,869,871,872,855,837,856,838,857,839,858,840,859,841,860,842,861,843,862,844,863,845,864,846
Name der Ausgabedatei: Despicable Mee04.mkv
As the official length is "ca 1:35" and the second result did not contain a german audio track it was easy to exclude it. But the other three are identical except of the "segment parts".

I thought this influences the chapter order, but I saved all three mkvs and jumped through all chapters and they are identical, too.

But there must be a difference because title 01 has a file size of 19 GB and 03 and 04 are 19.3 GB.

And there must be a difference between the last two titles because HashCheck 2.1.11 returned different file hashes for all of them:
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So now the question: How can I verify the correct title?

Woodstock
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Re: Despicable Me (Ich einfach unverbesserlich) - Which title / source file should I select?

Post by Woodstock » Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:21 pm

This is a Disney release, so your language determines which you should use. If you look at the titles and credits section of the files, they will be in different languages. 800 is almost always English. 801 and 802 are usually Spanish/French, respectively.

For German, 804 is the most likely one. Both the title pages and credits should be in German.
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Grauhaar
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Re: Despicable Me (Ich einfach unverbesserlich) - Which title / source file should I select?

Post by Grauhaar » Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:58 pm

Make a decrypted backup of the disc, go to the backup folder "Streams" and view the different stream elements f.e 00847.m2ts (for 800mpls) and so on. Easy way to find out which paylist is the correct one. After this open the "backup" (the index.bdmv file in the bdmv folder) with MakeMKV, select the right title and create the MKV file. No need to process the Blu-ray again.

mgutt
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Re: Despicable Me (Ich einfach unverbesserlich) - Which title / source file should I select?

Post by mgutt » Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:03 pm

@Woodstock
These are the results:

title01
00800.mpls
english intro logo "despicable me"

title03
00802.mpls
french intro logo "moi moche et mechant"

title04
00804.mpls
italian intro logo "cattivissimo me"

credits look identical in all three versions. As there is no german logo available it seems I need to use 00800.mpls?! At the moment I'm not able to test the blu-ray. It does not run with VLC and DVDFab Player crashes :(

EDIT: Incidentally I own the german movie at Google Play Movies as well. There it has a german logo. Hmm...

EDIT2: Ok, VLC works now (missed to install Java). I selected German in the menu but the Logo in the intro is still in English. So it seems that this Blu-Ray does not contain a special German intro. I'll go with the English version "00800.mpls".

@Grauhaar
I will try your tips with the next problematic blu-ray. For now I bookmark this url:
https://www.makemkv.com/faq/item/4

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