Transformers Age of Extinction

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Garmon
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Transformers Age of Extinction

Post by Garmon » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:34 pm

MakeMKV is unable to recognize the TrueHD Atmos track. It sees the standard AC3 sub-track, just not the main.

As this is the first disc with an Atmos track this is not unexpected. Just a heads up.

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Re: Transformers Age of Extinction

Post by tripplesixty » Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:40 pm

Seeing the same results... Having problem with other demux'ing tools trying to get this track extracted. Would love to see an updated version supporting the Atmos extension.

Garmon
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Re: Transformers Age of Extinction

Post by Garmon » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:12 pm

Same here. If anyone figures out the correct tool to get the TrueHD track extracted, give us a heads up.

Thanks

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Re: Transformers Age of Extinction

Post by Ronin22222 » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:54 pm

I was just coming to report the same problem. It doesn't recognize the ATMOS audio track or the TrueHD audio track

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Re: Transformers Age of Extinction

Post by Garmon » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:15 pm

I was able to extract the track using tsMuxeR and integrate it into the mkv file with MKVToolnix. VLC is mute on the track, MPC-HC just freezes. When passing the audio directly to my receiver via XBMC the movie is also mute until I switch over to the standard DD track. I get similar results playing the m2ts file directly. I guess we get to wait until EVERYONE updates their software to recognize Atmos tracks.

Which sucks, as plain DD sounds like ass when compared to TrueHD or even plain DTS. I would watch a 720 file with a DTS track before I would watch 1080p with DD only....

If anyone has any ideas on how to tweak the ac3 file in order to get the TrueHD track to pass-through. Please post here.

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Re: Transformers Age of Extinction

Post by Ronin22222 » Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:07 pm

Garmon wrote:I was able to extract the track using tsMuxeR and integrate it into the mkv file with MKVToolnix. VLC is mute on the track, MPC-HC just freezes. When passing the audio directly to my receiver via XBMC the movie is also mute until I switch over to the standard DD track. I get similar results playing the m2ts file directly. I guess we get to wait until EVERYONE updates their software to recognize Atmos tracks.

Which sucks, as plain DD sounds like ass when compared to TrueHD or even plain DTS. I would watch a 720 file with a DTS track before I would watch 1080p with DD only....

If anyone has any ideas on how to tweak the ac3 file in order to get the TrueHD track to pass-through. Please post here.
I don't know if your player supports ISO files directly, but my WDTV plays it just fine. Shows it's playing the TrueHD track. I had to do it this way until MakeMKV gets updated. It's not ideal of course, because I'd love to strip out the foreign languages, but it'll do just fine for now. Been watching it the last hour or so without problems

Rydsen
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Re: Transformers Age of Extinction

Post by Rydsen » Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:08 pm

Apparently, last night's nightly build of MPC-HC updated with the latest LAV filters and will now support TrueHD streams with a Dolby Atmos substream. I haven't updated yet to test this out so I can't confirm it'll work.

Scroll to the bottom.
https://trac.mpc-hc.org/ticket/4879

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Re: Transformers Age of Extinction

Post by Rydsen » Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:46 am

Just got back home and checked my rip and encode from earlier. I had to use tsMuxeR as well to demux the THD track since MakeMKV couldn't see it, then mux it back with my final encoded video stream, and after installing last night's build of MPC-HC and disabling the external LAV audio filter, the THD track played just fine.

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Re: Transformers Age of Extinction

Post by abriffa » Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:02 am

Anyone knows if the new version v1.8.13 solved the problem and can now see TrueHD and Atmos?

Because I downloaded it and opened Transformers: Age of Extinction, but still TrueHD or Atmos do not show.

Only the DD5.1 shows?

diy_darryl
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Re: Transformers Age of Extinction

Post by diy_darryl » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:49 pm

Same for me, makemkv does not show the HD audio tracks, only DD. I am assuming makemkv will be updated at some point to correct this so I will keep an eye on this thread for a fix.

DeMuxing etc. is way over my head. I need easy.

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Re: Transformers Age of Extinction

Post by canadien37 » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:55 pm

I installed the latest version of MakeMKV, ver. 1.8.14......I get a Fatal Error when I try to rip Transformers- Age of Extinction.......It gets past the decryption stage, but when it gets to the processing titles stage, it hangs and eventually I get a "Fatal Error-Program will now Exit" message and then the program closes.......this is what I get as far as debug messages....


Debug log started at Thu Oct 23 23:18:26 2014 , written by MakeMKV v1.8.14 linux(x64-release)
Using 513024KB for read cache.
001005:0000 MakeMKV v1.8.14 linux(x64-release) started
001004:0000 Debug logging enabled, log will be saved as /home/donald/MakeMKV_log.txt
003007:0000 Using direct disc access mode
DAFD=PAAAADAAAAEABDQkEHwEBAQ==
DCE=ai5cgY4tV20iBBK+hS2fGhNRiJDghqFGLRuCE5DXntB4pT8+aLo7cBkCeK4uIr9dNJGToJzb+IVSA378I1ilQTU9xTpJ4Nd0WOx0cwZFEwqRFJ31v7Omg/NwRfJCcrdU4Hq2ZXaSB0OIctkUyfCHzBYo5yFquZC/oA==
DCE=NW2m0xYNIcEXRO/e+OnCDH8Q2jPbbTFVpHebs0v40WxxxECEmIF/pW4zSi0DpZMDUPz8N3MYUdnaxTtVi9SmJ+9bel35dOLACJWas7sdVzmqf5qpMf4GVMwoMJ3uGesMNsmHg0+Ei1Cc1q+hHYqEID7cQRSbz53K5w==
DISCID=BF687830B3E868CE84B02B35E283D9E9F7792FB8

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Re: Transformers Age of Extinction

Post by GFOviedo » Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:25 pm

I've ripped Transformers Age of Extinction, and MakeMKV was able to recognize the Atmos / True HD file. However, whenever I play the TrueHD file there is no sound. I've got to switch to DD 5.1 sound file to get any sound.

Here's the Mediainfo information:


General
Unique ID : 110770648840339206695221158006833662110 (0x5355A6A50EC81C12477619691CC9C89E)
Complete name : C:\Users\Gus\Desktop\TRANSFORMERS AGE OF EXTINCTION (2014)\TRANSFORMERS AGE OF EXTINCTION (2014).mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 34.5 GiB
Duration : 2h 45mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 29.9 Mbps
Movie name : Transformers Age of Extinction
Encoded date : UTC 2014-10-24 06:55:28
Writing application : MakeMKV v1.8.14 win(x64-release)
Writing library : libmakemkv v1.8.14 (1.3.0/1.4.1) win(x64-release)

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 45mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 33.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : TrueHD
Codec ID : A_TRUEHD
Duration : 2h 45mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 7 662 Kbps
Channel(s) : 8 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossless
Title : Surround 7.1
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 45mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 756 MiB (2%)
Title : Surround 5.1
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No

Audio #3
ID : 4
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 45mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 756 MiB (2%)
Title : Surround 5.1
Language : Spanish
Default : No
Forced : No

Text #1
ID : 5
Format : PGS
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No

Text #2
ID : 6
Format : PGS
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Text #3
ID : 7
Format : PGS
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No

Text #4
ID : 9
Format : PGS
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language : Spanish
Default : No
Forced : No

Text #5
ID : 10
Format : PGS
Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
Language : Spanish
Default : No
Forced : No

Menu
00:00:00.000 : en:Chapter 01
00:06:51.577 : en:Chapter 02
00:14:33.581 : en:Chapter 03
00:21:37.462 : en:Chapter 04
00:30:13.394 : en:Chapter 05
00:38:45.990 : en:Chapter 06
00:46:08.056 : en:Chapter 07
00:51:39.513 : en:Chapter 08
00:59:09.337 : en:Chapter 09
01:07:48.647 : en:Chapter 10
01:15:14.551 : en:Chapter 11
01:23:25.291 : en:Chapter 12
01:29:14.724 : en:Chapter 13
01:37:16.956 : en:Chapter 14
01:44:35.435 : en:Chapter 15
01:51:25.053 : en:Chapter 16
01:57:47.935 : en:Chapter 17
02:04:48.481 : en:Chapter 18
02:12:35.864 : en:Chapter 19
02:21:04.205 : en:Chapter 20
02:28:48.669 : en:Chapter 21
02:37:09.628 : en:Chapter 22

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Re: Transformers Age of Extinction

Post by mike admin » Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:34 pm

GFOviedo wrote:I've ripped Transformers Age of Extinction, and MakeMKV was able to recognize the Atmos / True HD file. However, whenever I play the TrueHD file there is no sound. I've got to switch to DD 5.1 sound file to get any sound.
Most open-source software can't process TrueHD with Atmos data. Even latest released version ffmpeg can't, you need to recompile ffmpeg from current snapshot in order to decode TrueHD tracks with Atmos data.

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Re: Transformers Age of Extinction

Post by GFOviedo » Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:00 pm

mike admin wrote:
GFOviedo wrote:I've ripped Transformers Age of Extinction, and MakeMKV was able to recognize the Atmos / True HD file. However, whenever I play the TrueHD file there is no sound. I've got to switch to DD 5.1 sound file to get any sound.
Most open-source software can't process TrueHD with Atmos data. Even latest released version ffmpeg can't, you need to recompile ffmpeg from current snapshot in order to decode TrueHD tracks with Atmos data.

How do I do that?

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Re: Transformers Age of Extinction

Post by mike admin » Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:50 pm

canadien37 wrote:I installed the latest version of MakeMKV, ver. 1.8.14......I get a Fatal Error when I try to rip Transformers- Age of Extinction.......It gets past the decryption stage, but when it gets to the processing titles stage, it hangs and eventually I get a "Fatal Error-Program will now Exit" message and then the program closes.......this is what I get as far as debug messages....
On Linux, you must compile with the latest ffmpeg from snapshot in order to get Atmos support. Building MakeMKV with latest released ffmpeg will not work.

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