Salt (2010) Cinema, Director's and Extended Cut

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mgutt
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Salt (2010) Cinema, Director's and Extended Cut

Post by mgutt » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:22 am

This is regarding the steelbox of Salt in German. It contains all three Cuts in different length:

Director's Cut
Titelinformationen
Name: Salt (English)
Name der Quelldatei: 00003.mpls
Länge: 1:44:04
Anzahl der Kapitel: 16
Size: 25.7 GB
Segmentanzahl: 28
Segmentkarte: 11,143,114,144,116,145,118,146,120,147,122,148,124,149,126,150,128,151,130,152,132,154,134,155,136,157,138,159
Name der Ausgabedatei: Salte00.mkv
Titelinformationen
Name: Salt (English)
Name der Quelldatei: 00004.mpls
Länge: 1:44:04
Anzahl der Kapitel: 16
Size: 25.7 GB
Segmentanzahl: 28
Segmentkarte: 11,143,114,144,116,145,118,146,120,147,122,148,124,149,126,150,128,151,130,152,132,154,134,155,136,157,138,159
Name der Ausgabedatei: Salte03.mkv
Extended Cut
Titelinformationen
Name: Salt (English)
Name der Quelldatei: 00005.mpls
Länge: 1:41:04
Anzahl der Kapitel: 16
Size: 25.1 GB
Segmentanzahl: 28
Segmentkarte: 11,143,114,144,116,145,118,146,120,147,122,148,124,149,126,150,128,151,130,153,132,154,134,156,136,158,138,160
Name der Ausgabedatei: Salte01.mkv
Titelinformationen
Name: Salt (English)
Name der Quelldatei: 00006.mpls
Länge: 1:41:04
Anzahl der Kapitel: 16
Size: 25.1 GB
Segmentanzahl: 28
Segmentkarte: 11,143,114,144,116,145,118,146,120,147,122,148,124,149,126,150,128,151,130,153,132,154,134,156,136,158,138,160
Name der Ausgabedatei: Salte04.mkv
Cinema Cut
Titelinformationen
Name: Salt (English)
Name der Quelldatei: 00002.mpls
Länge: 1:39:59
Anzahl der Kapitel: 16
Size: 24.8 GB
Segmentanzahl: 28
Segmentkarte: 11,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139
Name der Ausgabedatei: Salte02.mkv
Titelinformationen
Name: Salt (English)
Name der Quelldatei: 00040.mpls
Länge: 1:39:59
Anzahl der Kapitel: 28
Size: 24.8 GB
Segmentanzahl: 28
Segmentkarte: 11,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139
Name der Ausgabedatei: Salte05.mkv
I only need the Director's Cut. As you can see it is part of 00003.mpls and 00004.mpls. Both contain the same segment parts, chapters, etc:
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but the file size differs a little bit:
Salte00.mkv - 00003.mpls - 23.126.528.622 Bytes
Salte03.mkv - 00004.mpls - 23.126.292.734 Bytes

I checked the credits and intro but can not see any difference. As the segments are identical this seems to be logic. Which differences could be left?

mgutt
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Re: Salt (2010) Cinema, Director's and Extended Cut

Post by mgutt » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:32 am

I tried to check the audio. By that I used gMKVExtractGUI and extracted the audio tracks, subtitle sup and chapter xml files.

The differences as follows:

Through PSPad I found that chapters contain different "EditionUID" and "ChapterUID" :
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The HashCheck Shell Extension shows identical english DTS-HD MA audio tracks:
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Then I compared all subtitle files (English and German) and found different checksums for two subtitle files:
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In the next step I will search for a tool to check the sup-files content as they seem to be encrypted or compressed.

mgutt
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Re: Salt (2010) Cinema, Director's and Extended Cut

Post by mgutt » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:53 am

Now I used Subtitle Edit 3.5.9 to convert the SUP (text as images) file to SRT (text is OCR'd through Subtitle Edit). I checked the differences with PSPad again and its American vs British English:
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Wow. So much work for this little detail ;)

Result:
Salte00.mkv - 00003.mpls - American English
Salte03.mkv - 00004.mpls - British English

I'll go with AE.

Maybe MakeMKV could highlight differences like this in the future?

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